what power SHOULD i have???

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Post by cam740 » 29 Aug 2005 05:22 am

how have you come up with that figure?

i'm not disputing it just surprised its that low a figure!!!

and disappointed seeing i only made 60rwhp on the dyno!!! :shock:

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Post by SoLaMaNdA » 29 Aug 2005 04:24 pm

Drive a long journey and then feel the gearbox/back axel. You will be suprised how hot they get.

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Post by foggyjames » 02 Sep 2005 11:45 pm

I'd say 90-100 at the wheels for a GLT in good shape. Husky will have to tell you what I was getting at the wheels (only seen from behind the car), but IIRC he said the wheel figure was what he expected the crank figure to be, which was ~115bhp.

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Post by cam740 » 10 Sep 2005 01:21 am

well FINALLY after a few weeks i have Donut back on the roads with a few small differences to its previous incarnation:

B23E
530head (waiting to get my hands on a 531 down the track)
H cam

feels COMPLETELY different and a lot toeyer!! looking forward to whacking it on a dyno soon and seeing what kinda improvement its getting....

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Post by foggyjames » 10 Sep 2005 01:25 am

Good work! :) But...define "toeyer"...?!

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Post by cam740 » 10 Sep 2005 01:34 am

foggyjames wrote:Good work! :) But...define "toeyer"...?!

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lol - revs out far cleaner and certainly feel quicker!

i'm looking at getting closer to 65rwkw on teh dyno as it is - which is 20kw higher than last reading!!!

any less than that and i'll be disappointed!

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Post by foggyjames » 10 Sep 2005 01:43 am

Well it sounds like your B200 was knackered in some way, and this is a 140bhp engine...so I'd bloody well hope it feels faster!

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Post by cam740 » 10 Sep 2005 01:45 am

foggyjames wrote:Well it sounds like your B200 was knackered in some way, and this is a 140bhp engine...so I'd bloody well hope it feels faster!

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James
lol - you not wrong James!!!

any of u boys wanna hop on a boat and come out here for our dyno day??? :360:

i might actually put it on a dyno in the meantime to make sure i dont get any nasty surprises on the day.....

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Post by foggyjames » 10 Sep 2005 02:12 am

Now that would be funny..."STILL only 80bhp?! And just after we lost the Ashes too..." sm56

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Post by cam740 » 10 Sep 2005 02:34 am

foggyjames wrote:Now that would be funny..."STILL only 80bhp?! And just after we lost the Ashes too..." sm56

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:shock:

ooowww who's a bitch!!! sm6

whats happened to all teh smilies - only half of em are showing up!
i get none below the dancing red man....

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Post by huskyracer » 11 Sep 2005 08:53 am

Transmition losses on a chassis dyno are mostly down to the rolling resistance in the tyres, especialy on dynos with two rollers, as you have two contact patches and you are distorting the tyres in two places at once, inflating the tyres to very high pressures dramaticaly reduces transmission losses. james's car makes 110 ish at the wheels, 140 at the flywheel, my car makes 158 bhp at the wheels, which was 202 bhp at the flywheel, which helps show that the losses through the transmition also increase if you make more power, (more heat/ friction in the box, more distortion of the tyres etc) hence a low powered car such as my beetle when it had the stock 1200 engine showed 30 bhp at the wheels and about 38 at the crank!

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Post by classicswede » 11 Sep 2005 10:12 am

That makes alot of sense Iain about the tyres, I can see how the resistance is doubled. Nice figures for you tyrbo lump.

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Post by smithy » 27 Oct 2005 09:51 am

HI CAM
I have just put my 360 on the dyno. I managed 104 hp or 78 kw. this was from about 3.5k rpm to 5.5 and then it started dropping off. It will be interesting to see how yours compares with the upgrade.
see ya later.
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Post by cam740 » 27 Oct 2005 12:35 pm

smithy wrote:HI CAM
I have just put my 360 on the dyno. I managed 104 hp or 78 kw. this was from about 3.5k rpm to 5.5 and then it started dropping off. It will be interesting to see how yours compares with the upgrade.
see ya later.

gday Pete!!!

I'll have to have a chat with ya tomorrow when i come pick up the other one - I hope you have got the trans done in it!!! :shock: :(

those are really good numbers mate - teh best we got outta the 2.3s at the last one was ( i think) 75kw - and that was with a 1ggz toyota supercharger hanging off the side!!!

where'd you go???

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