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is this a right off?!

Posted: 28 Nov 2010 07:49 pm
by samueljon
from these pictures can you tell if its a right off or not?

cheers sam

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sorry about the pants photos tried, looks like the car its self has taken the hit aswell as the track arm

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 28 Nov 2010 09:14 pm
by Speedy88
I'm no expert but yeah that's a hole.

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 12:02 am
by samueljon
The hole is ment to be there for a track bar to go into its the bit around it that's bent iam worried about!

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 12:07 am
by Speedy88
No, not that hole, the one to the left. Your chassis has torn away from the part where it meets the bottom of the arch. I'd say it's pretty fucked but like I say, I'm no expert. Only real way to test mate is to measure the point where the radius arm attaches to the chassis from a fixed point (Front valance maybe?) and then measure the other side. If it's out, it's fudged.

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 01:46 am
by foggyjames
Anything can be reconstructed if you try hard enough...but yeah, I'd say that'll at least need some 'adjustment'. As the speedster says, measure it up against the other side to see what needs to be done, then take it from there.

cheers

James

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 09:48 am
by samueljon
ye i took the radius arm of the other side and iam missing about an half an inch/ an inch :(

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 10:48 am
by Chris_C
If the suspension points have been moved, the car needs to go to a jig to be fixed properly (Thatchem approved fixing place style) For what the car is likely worth, I doubt it to be cost effective.

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 11:27 am
by filthyjohn
That's the worst kerb damage I've seen on a 300. I'd say break the car for parts unless you know a competent repair place that'll do the work at mate's rates. Like Chris says though, it'll need jigging to be perfect.

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 11:43 am
by samueljon
yes did hit it a little hard, looked the part though... just got grip at the wrong point and stuck it into a kerb :(

anyone interested init??

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 01:25 pm
by Speedy88
You're better off scrapping the shell and transferring over the bits. Also don't want to burst your bubble but knackered 300 valvers aren't worth £800. You will save your money by keeping the bits, weighing the shell in and buying a new car. If you're struggling to find a shell, try one further away and pay the transport costs (Costing you a fair whack but still saving money in the long run). Think of it as:

Selling old car - +£300 (I'd guess that's what it is worth going on past broken valvers that have come up on here. One a year ago went to the scrappy as nobody bought it)
Building a new valver - £1000
Cost: £700

or

New car/shell - £200
Sell engine and parts - +£50
Weigh old shell in - +£100
Cost: £50

Almost pays for itself.

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 02:25 pm
by samueljon
the issue with re-building one is the lack off space i have :(
i will take offers on it is full of parts!

just a pain in the arse to break as again i have no space to do so

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 29 Nov 2010 09:03 pm
by Ride_on
Yes sorry for pointing that out, Front to back wheel centres are the most obvious thing to check. See my right off;

http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... f=2&t=8362

You could try removing the sub-frame and hammering back into position, welding then measuring up. You might be lucky if the energy went into tearing the spotweld instead of straight back into the box section. Did you catch the actual sub-frame or the radius arm on something? I also bent a radius arm mount before (pulled forward), chassis was ok. Only from the straight ahead kerb attacking from the joyriders did it get the chassis in the silver/gold car. In both cases the radius arm did not bend.

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 30 Nov 2010 10:33 am
by samueljon
the rim and radius arm are smashed and bent, i went into the kerb at a 45 degree angle
so most the force was put onto them i think, the radius arm mount seems fine just the biody around it has creased

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 17 Dec 2010 10:18 am
by samueljon
Just wondering what peoples opinons are on this and whats going to be the best way about going about it??

isit possiable to cut the area which has the crease in out and weld another bit in??
or
get the car jigged?? if so does anyone know where to get a car jigged in the bromley/london area

cheers sam

any ideas/help much appreicated

Re: is this a right off?!

Posted: 17 Dec 2010 03:10 pm
by Ride_on
I don't think welding in straight bits will help you that much. You won't know what size to cut the replacement, and the rest of the car that seems not bent is bent slightly. You'd have to cut out a very large piece in the hope that the rest of the car would spring back, but then you might cut out too much and it would sag, and any other number of evils.

Its hard to diagnose accurately from pictures and most on here are not professionals anyway. The safest things is to take it to a professional or scrap/reshell.