365.... what is the difference for 360?

Post by **Steve_mk2** » 12 Sep 2007 08:47 pm

as above what makes a 365 a 365?

Post by **Fuse** » 12 Sep 2007 09:18 pm

There is no 365.

345 exists though and it's just a 340 with 5-doors. I don't remember when they dropped the last number which indicated number of doors but 343 is 3-door 340, 345 is 5-door etc...

Post by **classicswede** » 13 Sep 2007 01:05 pm

My understanding is teh mk1's were 343 and 345. The first 360's were actualy called 343 and 345 untill the mk2 - i could be wrong

Post by **Frits** » 13 Sep 2007 01:44 pm

From 1983, the cars called 340 (renault engine) and 360 (volvo engine).

Before, the cars called 343 (threedoor) and 345 (five door). No matter what engine.

There where a few 363, with a V6

The MKII was also called 343, or 345. For a very short time. They had a split side-front window.

http://www.volvo300club.nl/leveringspro ... u=volvo300

http://www.volvo300club.nl/modelontwikk ... u=volvo300

Post by **Ronnie** » 13 Sep 2007 03:54 pm

Frits wrote:There where a few 363, with a V6

Got any more information on thse?! Sound slike fun

Post by **Bilbo** » 13 Sep 2007 04:11 pm

my 83 is a 363 on the log book!!

Post by **Frits** » 13 Sep 2007 04:48 pm

Ronnie wrote:
Frits wrote:There where a few 363, with a V6
Got any more information on thse?! Sound slike fun

A quick look at the search button gives you this link:

http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... 62&start=0

:]

There is some paperwork about the car to, but you should search it yourself. :]

Post by **Fuse** » 13 Sep 2007 04:54 pm

Well my registration says "2 door sedan."

363CS was a prototype version of a PRV engined 300-series. Volvo's intention was to race 300-series with V6 (presumably in Group-B) and they would've needed to make model for sale with V6 so they could homologate 300-series with V6. I think costs rose too high. (And of course if their interests were in Group-B, whole series was banned at the end)

http://www.300power.com/forum/index.php ... =694;image
http://www.300power.com/forum/index.php ... =694;image
http://www.300power.com/forum/index.php ... =837;image
http://www.300power.com/forum/index.php ... =697;image
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...th/Bild011.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...th/Bild009.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...th/Bild002.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...th/Bild008.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/auto...0srj/363CS.jpg

363CS proto is nowadays located at the Pi Walfridson's private museum.

Pi Walfridson was a driver at the Volvo rallycross team back then and won the championship with 343 turbo in 1980 and Per Engseth placed 3rd at the same year, also driving a 343 turbo. Not too bad, considering who they were racing against, second was Martin Schanche with Ford Escort RS1800. 4th and 5th places were also won by 343 turbos..

It was quite a damn good rally car, even though not many know that Volvo raced 300-series also back then.. 343 turbo went from 0 to 100km/h in 3.2s.

Post by **classicswede** » 13 Sep 2007 07:25 pm

Fuse you never fail to amaze me.

Any idea what kind of BHP the 343turbo was kicking out for that kind of 0-60 time

Post by **Frits** » 13 Sep 2007 07:56 pm

276 hp

^ found in his archive

Ohhh... I'll gonna be reach that easy, lol :]

Post by **Fuse** » 13 Sep 2007 08:53 pm

Haha thanks!

Yeah the Renault version had the smallest engine and 276hp and it had best acceleration

Weight was below 1000kg though so it was light. Of course gearings were such that it would go like hell below 200km/h, topspeed with rally gearings was something like 170-180 I think.

I've got an article in finnish about the 343 turbo.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/v ... oRC_s1.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/v ... oRC_s2.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/v ... oRC_s3.jpg

It had 1.4 bored to 1.7 and a HEMI head from Alpine R5 department. Turbo was KKK unit.

This one is also interesting. A 343 4X4 with 16V over 2.8l redblock (2878cc), 380hp NA.

http://www.pukema.com/lehdet/343_4wd.jpg

Rear diff is titanium ZF unit, front diff is from BMW 320. Gearbox is getrag race box, gear train is made by Ferguson, power ratios are 45% front 55% rear, clutch is from Saab rallycar, vented discs all around. 0 to 100km/h in 3.7 secs and from 0 to 178km/h in 7.5 secs.

Crazy car..

It said in the text that future plans involve turbocharger and planned power output would be about 580hp, but I don't know if it ever happened, because it says in the text that he heat problems with the 16V head when they tested turbo. But still 380hp NA is crazy enough.

Post by **foggyjames** » 22 Sep 2007 04:10 am

There were several 363CS prototypes....PI just has one of them. At least one was crashed...but there are probably at least 5 still out there....somewhere. Volvo themselves have one, we believe.

The final digit in the model number was carried on in certain circumstances after the badging changed to '0' - for example in the VIN number (which, as an aside, always reads 34x, even it it's a 36x...wierd!), and enthusiasts may use the door designation as a quick way or saying if it's a 3dr hatch, 5dr hatch, or a saloon.

cheers

James

Post by **340cbr** » 22 Sep 2007 02:43 pm

Very interessant facts in this topic

By the way, I thinck that the only 360 that I've seen in my town says in the badge "365 GLS"

Post by **foggyjames** » 22 Sep 2007 02:56 pm

All things are possible, and sometimes users have been known to play with badges

Here in the UK, at least, the '3' and '5' were dropped when the 360 came out.

cheers

James

Post by **340cbr** » 22 Sep 2007 04:25 pm

That car was bought from new by the current owner (old lady) and is 100% original.

I'll see if I can get some photos