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365.... what is the difference for 360?

Posted: 12 Sep 2007 08:47 pm
by Steve_mk2
as above what makes a 365 a 365? :?:

Posted: 12 Sep 2007 09:18 pm
by Fuse
There is no 365. ;) 345 exists though and it's just a 340 with 5-doors. I don't remember when they dropped the last number which indicated number of doors but 343 is 3-door 340, 345 is 5-door etc...

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 01:05 pm
by classicswede
My understanding is teh mk1's were 343 and 345. The first 360's were actualy called 343 and 345 untill the mk2 - i could be wrong

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 01:44 pm
by Frits
From 1983, the cars called 340 (renault engine) and 360 (volvo engine).

Before, the cars called 343 (threedoor) and 345 (five door). No matter what engine.

There where a few 363, with a V6

The MKII was also called 343, or 345. For a very short time. They had a split side-front window.

http://www.volvo300club.nl/leveringspro ... u=volvo300

http://www.volvo300club.nl/modelontwikk ... u=volvo300

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 03:54 pm
by Ronnie
Frits wrote:There where a few 363, with a V6
Got any more information on thse?! Sound slike fun :twisted:

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 04:11 pm
by Bilbo
my 83 is a 363 on the log book!!

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 04:48 pm
by Frits
Ronnie wrote:
Frits wrote:There where a few 363, with a V6
Got any more information on thse?! Sound slike fun :twisted:
A quick look at the search button gives you this link:

http://www.volvo300mania.com/forum-uk/v ... 62&start=0

:]


There is some paperwork about the car to, but you should search it yourself. :]

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 04:54 pm
by Fuse
Well my registration says "2 door sedan." :D

363CS was a prototype version of a PRV engined 300-series. Volvo's intention was to race 300-series with V6 (presumably in Group-B) and they would've needed to make model for sale with V6 so they could homologate 300-series with V6. I think costs rose too high. (And of course if their interests were in Group-B, whole series was banned at the end)

http://www.300power.com/forum/index.php ... =694;image
http://www.300power.com/forum/index.php ... =694;image
http://www.300power.com/forum/index.php ... =837;image
http://www.300power.com/forum/index.php ... =697;image
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...th/Bild011.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...th/Bild009.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...th/Bild002.jpg
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...th/Bild008.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/auto...0srj/363CS.jpg

363CS proto is nowadays located at the Pi Walfridson's private museum.

Pi Walfridson was a driver at the Volvo rallycross team back then and won the championship with 343 turbo in 1980 and Per Engseth placed 3rd at the same year, also driving a 343 turbo. Not too bad, considering who they were racing against, second was Martin Schanche with Ford Escort RS1800. 4th and 5th places were also won by 343 turbos.. :lol: It was quite a damn good rally car, even though not many know that Volvo raced 300-series also back then.. 343 turbo went from 0 to 100km/h in 3.2s. 8)

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 07:25 pm
by classicswede
Fuse you never fail to amaze me.

Any idea what kind of BHP the 343turbo was kicking out for that kind of 0-60 time

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 07:56 pm
by Frits
276 hp

^ found in his archive

Ohhh... I'll gonna be reach that easy, lol :]

Posted: 13 Sep 2007 08:53 pm
by Fuse
Haha thanks! :)

Yeah the Renault version had the smallest engine and 276hp and it had best acceleration :P Weight was below 1000kg though so it was light. Of course gearings were such that it would go like hell below 200km/h, topspeed with rally gearings was something like 170-180 I think.

I've got an article in finnish about the 343 turbo.

http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/v ... oRC_s1.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/v ... oRC_s2.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/mtn/images/autot/v ... oRC_s3.jpg

It had 1.4 bored to 1.7 and a HEMI head from Alpine R5 department. Turbo was KKK unit.

This one is also interesting. A 343 4X4 with 16V over 2.8l redblock (2878cc), 380hp NA. 8)

http://www.pukema.com/lehdet/343_4wd.jpg

Rear diff is titanium ZF unit, front diff is from BMW 320. Gearbox is getrag race box, gear train is made by Ferguson, power ratios are 45% front 55% rear, clutch is from Saab rallycar, vented discs all around. 0 to 100km/h in 3.7 secs and from 0 to 178km/h in 7.5 secs. :shock: :shock:

Crazy car.. :lol: It said in the text that future plans involve turbocharger and planned power output would be about 580hp, but I don't know if it ever happened, because it says in the text that he heat problems with the 16V head when they tested turbo. But still 380hp NA is crazy enough. :D

Posted: 22 Sep 2007 04:10 am
by foggyjames
There were several 363CS prototypes....PI just has one of them. At least one was crashed...but there are probably at least 5 still out there....somewhere. Volvo themselves have one, we believe.

The final digit in the model number was carried on in certain circumstances after the badging changed to '0' - for example in the VIN number (which, as an aside, always reads 34x, even it it's a 36x...wierd!), and enthusiasts may use the door designation as a quick way or saying if it's a 3dr hatch, 5dr hatch, or a saloon.

cheers

James

Posted: 22 Sep 2007 02:43 pm
by 340cbr
Very interessant facts in this topic :)


By the way, I thinck that the only 360 that I've seen in my town says in the badge "365 GLS"

Posted: 22 Sep 2007 02:56 pm
by foggyjames
All things are possible, and sometimes users have been known to play with badges ;) Here in the UK, at least, the '3' and '5' were dropped when the 360 came out.

cheers

James

Posted: 22 Sep 2007 04:25 pm
by 340cbr
That car was bought from new by the current owner (old lady) and is 100% original.

I'll see if I can get some photos :wink: