BHX recommissioning thread - 1979 Volvo 343 DL

[MCHUDD]

Hi Sion.
No worrys about the radio cassette. I hope you find what your looking for.
If your stuck for a clock adjusting tool thingy, i can lend you mine.
It just screws into the back of the clock and come down beneath the steering wheel.
Cheers Mark.

[macplaxton]

I've just copped on to what you're on about with the clock....

Compare:

with


and note clock adjust through front lens on the bottom one, lack of red gear change blobs on the speedo face, and extra lines before the 10MPH and after the 110MPH marks...

Looks like I've a little extra job to do and change the lens for an earlier one when I go and fit the tachometer .

(Does the low-ration hold warning lamp (third from right) have any alternative function on a manual car or is it just for show?!)

I've just found this in-between one with later speedo, but earlier clock.

[jtbo]

What is that r0,900 for? Mine has lower r0,562. I have imagined it being some sort of accuracy statement, but never really found out if it is percentage or something else?
r is radius or yaw rate, don't remember other uses for it at the moment.

[trabitom99]

What colour is the parcel shelf in your red one? My car has a beige interior but a dark grey parcel shelf, and I wondered whether they ever supplied beige ones?

It's black, or _very_ dark grey ...

Looks like I've a little extra job to do and change the lens for an earlier one when I go and fit the tachometer .

True

There is an OEM Volvo clock for the extra gauge panel which can be fitted instead.

(Does the low-ration hold warning lamp (third from right) have any alternative function on a manual car or is it just for show?!)

No function ... it's just not connected.

Cheers

Tom

[Chris_C]

What is that r0,900 for? Mine has lower r0,562. I have imagined it being some sort of accuracy statement, but never really found out if it is percentage or something else?
r is radius or yaw rate, don't remember other uses for it at the moment.

I'd go for rotations maybe Jani (of the speedo cable)? I *think?* MPH clocks have 0,900, kph have 0,562, maybe it's amount of rotations per 1 *insert chosen unit here*?

[macplaxton]

I think in Smiths Industries language it is turns per mile or km.

That is for every mile/km the wheel/tyre combo covers, the cable turns so many revolutions.

[trabitom99]

Here are the pics of those wings:



They are the earlier Mk1 version, without the holes for the indicators. I guess they could be drilled easily though, better than the other way around.

He'd like 175 Euros plus postage. If that's an option, send me a PM and I'll send you his email address.

Cheers

Tom

PS he sent me this pic too:

[Hell Driver]

That's a coincidence, I have a pair WITH the holes for the indicators....I was wanting to make a non indicator 76/77 replica so if you get them and fancy a swap let me know

(I know I'll probably have to mount some somewhere else for the MOT, I'm not entirely sure about it yet! Anyone know the exact date they are legally required?)

I never really liked the indicators...they just look stuck on. I spent too many years driving one without

[S10NPH]

I think that 175 EUR is a bit steep, considering I only paid £300 for the whole car!

I'll see if the wings can be saved first, and have a think about my options at that stage.

[trabitom99]

I dunno, going "per wing" I'd say anything between 50 and 80 Euros is a fair price. Of course you could get lucky on the bay and grab one for a lot less.

See what your welder guy reckons about saving the originals, and take it from there.

Cheers

Tom

[trabitom99]

That's a coincidence, I have a pair WITH the holes for the indicators....I was wanting to make a non indicator 76/77 replica so if you get them and fancy a swap let me know

In my own parts stash I've got one wing with indicator hole, and one wing without. If we ever meet up at some point, I'd be happy to swap the one without

(I know I'll probably have to mount some somewhere else for the MOT, I'm not entirely sure about it yet! Anyone know the exact date they are legally required?)

That'd be unusual. No one "forces" you to fit rear seat belts or a third rear brake light or daytime running lights, even if all these are required these days. Over here US cars need some conversions, like orange indicators rather than red ones, but I'd be surprised if the MOT man makes you fit indicators on the wings.

Cheers

Tom

[volvomania]

Darned I should have followed this story more closely.

Here are the pics of those wings:
They are the earlier Mk1 version, without the holes for the indicators. I guess they could be drilled easily though, better than the other way around.

Tom, they are actually later wings. Volvo stopped distinguishing between the MkI (no hole) and II (holes) wings somewhere in the early eighties and send out a note with the dimensions and locations of the holes so that the panelbeater could drill them if needed. Saved them two locations in the warehouse....

He'd like 175 Euros plus postage.

That is not a bad price, I personally ask more for a NOS wing, knowing how rare the are.
One can offcourse keep an eye out for them on the bay as not many people need them and they do come up from time to time.

Looking at the condition of the car (still awaiting the VIN) it looks to be in a slightly worse condition then my 79-er.
I had had to change the inner and outer sills, part of the floorpan and chassis, front and rear wings, the 2 doors, the sunroof,....

Can you keep an eye out for me if you come across identical upholstery, I could use some bits for my car.

[trabitom99]

OK, good to know ... By "later" do you mean up to MY1981?

Cheers

Tom

[volvomania]

By later wings I mean wings produced after 1981-83, not sure exactly when as I need to look this up (there is actually a service bulletin around detailing it all)
At that time it was decided to make 1 "generic" wing for the MkI (76-78) and MkII (79-81) and let the panelbeater drill the holes for the MkII. Cheaper for them to produce (no holes)/less warehouse space/no mix-ups possible.
Original MkI wings are recognized by the reddish colour of the paint, these are after 1981 as Volvo had changed to black (and even later to a flat dull greenish colour).

Out of my head I know they did something similar for the "nose cone" and some other parts.

[Hell Driver]

That'd be unusual. No one "forces" you to fit rear seat belts or a third rear brake light or daytime running lights, even if all these are required these days. Over here US cars need some conversions, like orange indicators rather than red ones, but I'd be surprised if the MOT man makes you fit indicators on the wings.

I thought if you take any of these things out of a car which had them at a date on or after they were required by law then they would make you put them back in? For example if you took the seat belts out of a 1995 escort I'm sure you'd not get the MOT, but they can't make you put them in a 1969 escort. Then again how do the lads in the stripped out 300's get on with no rear belts? No seat..no need for a belt?

When I took the '89 340 for it's first MOT two years ago the young lad doing it couldn't find the side repeaters, he asked I'd fitted the older wings without indicators...red face when I pointed to the bumper I think he was going to fail it if it had non.

Question is did the 1980 343 legally need repeaters? If the law wasn't brought in till 1982 for example then I'm OK.