Turbo 360: More potential shell ruining lol
Re: Project B230FT Coil Wiring help needed ASAP
Good work! Can see why not many people have done this conversion yet
1989 - Volvo 360 GLT
1985 - Volvo 360 GLS
2008 - Volvo S60 SE Lux
1985 - Volvo 360 GLS
2008 - Volvo S60 SE Lux
Re: Project B230FT More progress 24/7/10
Cheers Ben. 
Aye Steve, the loom is a tad more involved than I first expected shall we say! lol Thanks mate.
Right, v quick 2:30am update. Mark gave me a hand today and we got a good 9 hours in I'd say.
Removed a bit more...
The excess above is a combination of the main/dash loom and the loom running to the rear. Only 3 wires are needed from the rear one. (on two seperate plugs)
Here's how the fuse box is currently looking. I don't know if I have any before photos but it was a complete birds nest!
Needless to say, the main/dash loom is now a skinny shadow of its former self. With zero unnecessary features.
it's very nearly running on just the bare bones now tbh, but I still want to pull a bit more out, stuff running to the ECU's that is now defunct etc.
Rear loom for lights, wiper, HRW, fuel pump etc etc. All that is needed is the three wires running on their own (brown in pic isn't needed)
Here's a quick pic of how some of the plug connectors are looking. TBH more may have been removed since I took these. Never took many pics today.
Not in pics, but some plusg have been eliminated altogether. (The blocks joining engine - main/dash and rear to main/dash looms hold banks of four plugs as standard) There may be a pic earlier in the thread.
The first of the two plugs that connect the rear loom to the main/dash loom down the N/S sill. Only the pink is needed lol.
Second plug. Just the uncuts needed. (Except brown) Or is brown and white? They are the ones you can see running to the rear of the car in the 3rd pic.
We ended on a bit of a downer though! The car stopped working. The starter turns, the fuel pump primes, but it seems like the coil is dead. We were knackered by this point, so after trying a few things we knocked off for the night and I stuck the battery on charge. It was very flat and I was keep having to give it 5/10 mins fast charge and there's the possibility it doesn't have enough voltage to power the ECU's etc when turning the car over now. Mark mentioned earlier that with the engine running the battery was only reading 12v. So we are thinking we may have killed the charging circuit or upset the immobilser lol.
Luckily it's not a very complex system.
Most of the fuse box terminals were only reading 2 volts also after the above occured. So lack of power seems logical?
We don't think it is anything too serious. Fresh eyes/head in the morning will hopefully suss it out.
FYI, the immobilser DOES control more than just the starter motor. It kills either the fuel supply or power to the coil if you pull the wrong spades off the fuse box when running - it's possible thie has been done/maybe put back in wrong place and the car is immobilsed at the coil. Who knows. I'm tired lol.
If you read this Mark, thanks a lot once again dude. We really got a lot acheived today. Killer about the state we left it in, but who knows what a recharged battery and workforce can do tomorrow eh!
Tomorrow is scheduled for engine removal from the donor btw, so I really want it running again ASAP!
Thanks for reading, Liam.
Aye Steve, the loom is a tad more involved than I first expected shall we say! lol Thanks mate.
Right, v quick 2:30am update. Mark gave me a hand today and we got a good 9 hours in I'd say.
Removed a bit more...
The excess above is a combination of the main/dash loom and the loom running to the rear. Only 3 wires are needed from the rear one. (on two seperate plugs)
Here's how the fuse box is currently looking. I don't know if I have any before photos but it was a complete birds nest!
Needless to say, the main/dash loom is now a skinny shadow of its former self. With zero unnecessary features.
it's very nearly running on just the bare bones now tbh, but I still want to pull a bit more out, stuff running to the ECU's that is now defunct etc.
Rear loom for lights, wiper, HRW, fuel pump etc etc. All that is needed is the three wires running on their own (brown in pic isn't needed)
Here's a quick pic of how some of the plug connectors are looking. TBH more may have been removed since I took these. Never took many pics today.
Not in pics, but some plusg have been eliminated altogether. (The blocks joining engine - main/dash and rear to main/dash looms hold banks of four plugs as standard) There may be a pic earlier in the thread.
The first of the two plugs that connect the rear loom to the main/dash loom down the N/S sill. Only the pink is needed lol.
Second plug. Just the uncuts needed. (Except brown) Or is brown and white?
They are the ones you can see running to the rear of the car in the 3rd pic.We ended on a bit of a downer though! The car stopped working. The starter turns, the fuel pump primes, but it seems like the coil is dead. We were knackered by this point, so after trying a few things we knocked off for the night and I stuck the battery on charge. It was very flat and I was keep having to give it 5/10 mins fast charge and there's the possibility it doesn't have enough voltage to power the ECU's etc when turning the car over now. Mark mentioned earlier that with the engine running the battery was only reading 12v. So we are thinking we may have killed the charging circuit or upset the immobilser lol.
Luckily it's not a very complex system.
Most of the fuse box terminals were only reading 2 volts also after the above occured. So lack of power seems logical?
We don't think it is anything too serious. Fresh eyes/head in the morning will hopefully suss it out.
FYI, the immobilser DOES control more than just the starter motor. It kills either the fuel supply or power to the coil if you pull the wrong spades off the fuse box when running - it's possible thie has been done/maybe put back in wrong place and the car is immobilsed at the coil. Who knows. I'm tired lol.
If you read this Mark, thanks a lot once again dude. We really got a lot acheived today. Killer about the state we left it in, but who knows what a recharged battery and workforce can do tomorrow eh!
Tomorrow is scheduled for engine removal from the donor btw, so I really want it running again ASAP!
Thanks for reading, Liam.
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Re: Project B230FT Coil Wiring help needed ASAP
This is looking really impressive from this side of the monitor mate, well done indeed!
FWIW, I'd try and either buy some pin removal tools or make one and take the metal contacts out of the plug housing for wires you don't need. That way you don't have bare copper on any faces and it'll look more pro
FWIW, I'd try and either buy some pin removal tools or make one and take the metal contacts out of the plug housing for wires you don't need. That way you don't have bare copper on any faces and it'll look more pro
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
Thanks Chris. I am very pleased with how things are going tbh mate! The plug situation has already been discussed and decided lol. I will buy some new multiplugs and condense the 3/4 plugs per side to a singular one. I will swap the plugs over when it's all in the 360 and nice and happy though!
Todays progress...
Well after much probing with the multimeter this morning, we worked out that the signal wire to the injectors was dead. After even more searching and head scratching it was solved by Mark whilst I was in the house about to download some scanned Haynes pages. lol As well as Mark helping me today I also had Ronnie and Mick. Cheers once more guys. Uber appreciation!
As suspected, the problem lay in the fuse box. A single spade was on the wrong terminal, and that was enough to kill it dead. As mentioend previously, this had happened when we were removing excess from the fuse and relay boxes. A simple and easy mistake, but a one that makes you pay for it! lol
So with that sorted, we decided no more wires would be removed as today was marked as engien removal day and I had rounded up the troops. Even though a few more can be I reckon. I may or may not do this when it's in the 360 and running.
I took the brick for it's final journey. A 100 yard jaunt up the street lol. It's fun with no doors/bonnet/lights etc. Then we removed the looms for the last time.
Here's a few pics of the wiring required.
Main/dash loom
Engine/bay/Jetronic ECU - main/dash loom.
Other engine/bay - main/dash loom.
and another.
I need to check them, there's a couple more mini looms. like the one to the fuel pump. Guess I never took a pic of that.
Going
Going
Gone
x1 M90 off to a new home.
The 'keep/that may be needed' pile.
The FMIC isn't that large IMO. I will be interested to see how far off it is in the 360. As I plan to space the rad back if necessary.
When deleting unrequired items from a 940, remove all of this. lol
IMO it doesn't look like there is that much there in the grand scheme of things, but that is a 6 foot diameter table, and the medium sized black bag I used was binned and in total it filled a large rubble sack. We guesstimate about 10/15kgs was there.
and finally, here's a couple of pics of one very dead Jew canoe!
LOL ^ there's the fuel pump wiring.
We put the doors back on, and filled it with all the crap that came out of it, interior plastics, bumpers etc etc. It's going to be weighed in tomorrow. Then I will have an empty garage once more.
I will also be sorting through the looms and soldering a few joints which are currently just twist 'n' tape dude to eliminating the wrong ones at various stages of working out the looms lol
Once again, thanks very much to Mark Ron and Mick. Another awesome and succesful day. Hacving all of you there today was ideal and as such I am bang on target for what I wanted to acheive over my holidays!
Week one saw the 940 purchased on Saturday and the work began on Sunday. it is finished exactly a week later and will be gone tomorrow.
Week two (1st of holidays) Remove B19 and fit B230FT into 360.
Week three (2nd and last of hols) use car/iron out any issues and hopefully have time to replace the rear leafs and front struts, recon my new Superlites and rebuild rear brakes.
Let's see how that pans out eh! lol
Todays progress...
Well after much probing with the multimeter this morning, we worked out that the signal wire to the injectors was dead. After even more searching and head scratching it was solved by Mark whilst I was in the house about to download some scanned Haynes pages. lol As well as Mark helping me today I also had Ronnie and Mick. Cheers once more guys. Uber appreciation!
As suspected, the problem lay in the fuse box. A single spade was on the wrong terminal, and that was enough to kill it dead. As mentioend previously, this had happened when we were removing excess from the fuse and relay boxes. A simple and easy mistake, but a one that makes you pay for it! lol
So with that sorted, we decided no more wires would be removed as today was marked as engien removal day and I had rounded up the troops. Even though a few more can be I reckon. I may or may not do this when it's in the 360 and running.
I took the brick for it's final journey. A 100 yard jaunt up the street lol. It's fun with no doors/bonnet/lights etc. Then we removed the looms for the last time.
Here's a few pics of the wiring required.
Main/dash loom
Engine/bay/Jetronic ECU - main/dash loom.
Other engine/bay - main/dash loom.
and another.
I need to check them, there's a couple more mini looms. like the one to the fuel pump. Guess I never took a pic of that.
Going
Going
Gone
x1 M90 off to a new home.
The 'keep/that may be needed' pile.
The FMIC isn't that large IMO. I will be interested to see how far off it is in the 360. As I plan to space the rad back if necessary.
When deleting unrequired items from a 940, remove all of this. lol
IMO it doesn't look like there is that much there in the grand scheme of things, but that is a 6 foot diameter table, and the medium sized black bag I used was binned and in total it filled a large rubble sack. We guesstimate about 10/15kgs was there.
and finally, here's a couple of pics of one very dead Jew canoe!
LOL ^ there's the fuel pump wiring.
We put the doors back on, and filled it with all the crap that came out of it, interior plastics, bumpers etc etc. It's going to be weighed in tomorrow. Then I will have an empty garage once more.
I will also be sorting through the looms and soldering a few joints which are currently just twist 'n' tape dude to eliminating the wrong ones at various stages of working out the looms lol
Once again, thanks very much to Mark Ron and Mick. Another awesome and succesful day. Hacving all of you there today was ideal and as such I am bang on target for what I wanted to acheive over my holidays!
Week one saw the 940 purchased on Saturday and the work began on Sunday. it is finished exactly a week later and will be gone tomorrow.
Week two (1st of holidays) Remove B19 and fit B230FT into 360.
Week three (2nd and last of hols) use car/iron out any issues and hopefully have time to replace the rear leafs and front struts, recon my new Superlites and rebuild rear brakes.
Let's see how that pans out eh! lol
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Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
Awesome work man.
I NEVER thought the conversion would include so much wire tracing and head scratching.
Koudos to you for pushin on through dude.
Big job well done.
I NEVER thought the conversion would include so much wire tracing and head scratching.
Koudos to you for pushin on through dude.
Big job well done.
Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
Aye man, you wouldn't expect it would you! TBH I never knew nowt about the donor cars, but now I do lol.
When you consider it has Elec windows, mirrors, heated seats, as well as all the usual stalks, clocks, radio etc (In that last three I bet there's over 70 wires tbh!) as well as wiring waiting for air-con, cruise control, climate control, car phone etc etc then it all starts to make sense lol.
Well, at least most of the tedious side of things is now done with.
When you consider it has Elec windows, mirrors, heated seats, as well as all the usual stalks, clocks, radio etc (In that last three I bet there's over 70 wires tbh!) as well as wiring waiting for air-con, cruise control, climate control, car phone etc etc then it all starts to make sense lol.
Well, at least most of the tedious side of things is now done with.
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Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
Aye, dont think youll be pondering the foregone tediousness much once you get the those Xrtra ponies under your right hoof.L14MNP wrote:
Well, at least most of the tedious side of things is now done with.
Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
and that is why i didnt do the lh2.4 conversion! i stil lwant it but im eyeing up a diesel swapvolvosneverdie wrote:Awesome work man.
I NEVER thought the conversion would include so much wire tracing and head scratching.
Koudos to you for pushin on through dude.
Big job well done.
Ben
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Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
See ya!
Subtle-legality is my middle name. :d We made it the three or so miles to the scrap yard without any police presence (and a 'seatbelt' secured by knots.)
Had a litte fun stoving panels in etc as you do.a few hundred yards from scrappers.
Mark has some more pics and vids from the occasion.
The masking tape was to keep the boot shut as we removed the catch last Sunday incase it decided to permanently lock itself when being drawn and quatered lol.
Then homie made bank.
lol. £80 for the shell (800kg) £20 for cat, £5 for the alloy bumper reinforcers
I think Filthy John's dad is having the 5 alloys for £40 too. So not a bad return on a £150 car when you consider I have kept the engine.
It still cost me £265 all in including fuel and trailor hire, but it's nice to get a bit back.
Pyro has a 60-2 LH2.4 flywheel too which I am purchasing, so it will very soon be all go.
I'm off down the garage shortly to solder and heatshrink the loom up, and (maybe) degrease the engine a bit.
Thanks for reading kids.
Subtle-legality is my middle name. :d We made it the three or so miles to the scrap yard without any police presence (and a 'seatbelt' secured by knots.)
Had a litte fun stoving panels in etc as you do.a few hundred yards from scrappers.
Mark has some more pics and vids from the occasion.
The masking tape was to keep the boot shut as we removed the catch last Sunday incase it decided to permanently lock itself when being drawn and quatered lol.
Then homie made bank.
lol. £80 for the shell (800kg) £20 for cat, £5 for the alloy bumper reinforcers
I think Filthy John's dad is having the 5 alloys for £40 too. So not a bad return on a £150 car when you consider I have kept the engine.
It still cost me £265 all in including fuel and trailor hire, but it's nice to get a bit back.
Pyro has a 60-2 LH2.4 flywheel too which I am purchasing, so it will very soon be all go.
I'm off down the garage shortly to solder and heatshrink the loom up, and (maybe) degrease the engine a bit.
Thanks for reading kids.
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Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
Speak of the devil lol. I see the appeal for a nice grunty TDi dude. MPG and speed can never be grumbled at! It will be pretty unique too, soemthing like a VAG PD motor?pyro wrote:and that is why i didnt do the lh2.4 conversion! i stil lwant it but im eyeing up a diesel swapvolvosneverdie wrote:Awesome work man.
I NEVER thought the conversion would include so much wire tracing and head scratching.
Koudos to you for pushin on through dude.
Big job well done.
Ben
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Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
INdeed! fancy meeting you ere!
Ive been talking to pete farrel (not the rugby dude) about his diesel 360, IIRC its a 2.3 turbo diesel out of a nissan cabstar or summat
ill have a look and see if ive got anything else lh2.4 related about and ill stick it in with the flywheel, duno what i have though.
Ben
fancy meeting you ere!Ive been talking to pete farrel (not the rugby dude) about his diesel 360, IIRC its a 2.3 turbo diesel out of a nissan cabstar or summat
ill have a look and see if ive got anything else lh2.4 related about and ill stick it in with the flywheel, duno what i have though.
Ben
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Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
Awesome man. Much appreciated. Hopefully Ad will send your PP payment in the next few minutes too!
A Cabstar motor, that's an interesting one! What about a derv from a BMW? lol. Those Cabstars hang the tails out verrry nicely when they're just the chassis!
Any pics of Pete's swap?
Hopefully Ad will send your PP payment in the next few minutes too!A Cabstar motor, that's an interesting one! What about a derv from a BMW? lol. Those Cabstars hang the tails out verrry nicely when they're just the chassis!
Any pics of Pete's swap?
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Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
there are a few pics lurking, illl see if i can dig em out.
what did you mean by vag pd motor?
no idea where to get conversion plates made thats the major issue!
Ben
what did you mean by vag pd motor?
no idea where to get conversion plates made thats the major issue!
Ben
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Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
There used to be some pics of Pete's diesel about on here, I guess you've found them bud?
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
Re: Project B230FT Wiring sussed & engine out.
Pissy update lol
Not much happened tonight, but that was the plan.
Sorted through the looms a little more, replacing twisted and taped connections for solder and heatshrink, and tidied up the fuse box and relay 'box' but mostly watched OFAH in the garage with my marra Richie. Cheers for the help mate!
Here's a vid my mate took of the 940 dying on the weigh bridge and a cool one of some mid-flight roof damage. lol
Youtube death
http://images54.fotki.com/v1616/photos/ ... 551-vi.jpg
That's it for tonight. Tomorrow I will have plenty to report. :thumb:
Not much happened tonight, but that was the plan.
Sorted through the looms a little more, replacing twisted and taped connections for solder and heatshrink, and tidied up the fuse box and relay 'box' but mostly watched OFAH in the garage with my marra Richie. Cheers for the help mate!
Here's a vid my mate took of the 940 dying on the weigh bridge and a cool one of some mid-flight roof damage. lol
Youtube death
http://images54.fotki.com/v1616/photos/ ... 551-vi.jpg
That's it for tonight. Tomorrow I will have plenty to report. :thumb:
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