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Post by **340 Nate** » 10 Apr 2005 02:23 am

i would but 3 doors are rare from what i know and this 340 looks nice, ever seen initial d? its got that kind of paint work, top half white and bottom half black. looks real nice

Nate

Post by **bodejodel** » 10 Apr 2005 02:47 am

I guess we need some pics...

Post by **340 Nate** » 10 Apr 2005 03:43 am

i didnt wanna show pics of the 340 incase it gets sold, but here it is.

the 340

this is a levin or as known over here a toyota corolla coupe gt

and this is the trueno which was only released in japan but was also used in the japanese hit anime initial d (the image is from the car driven in the new movie i think obviously it wouldnt have all the stickers over it when it was used in filming)

Nate

Post by **340 Nate** » 10 Apr 2005 03:58 am

i'd love to own one of those coupe gt's as a first car but they are going for about 4000 pounds for a reasonable conditioned car which is only a 1.6, only in my dreams will i be able to drive it

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Nate

Post by **foggyjames** » 10 Apr 2005 08:18 am

I'd definitely wait for a 3dr 360 GLT. They're not *that* rare...just give it a few weeks. Tuning a GTT to 140 bhp will cost big money, and the engine swap will cost 2-4000 to insure....been there....(well...got quotes!)

cheers

James

Post by **jtbo** » 10 Apr 2005 09:31 am

And from 360 you can get 300bhp for a little time at least

Maybe with budget needed for tuning GTT engine to 140bhp could be enough to build 300bhp B23 engine for 360 and it is much more fun then

Post by **340 Nate** » 10 Apr 2005 02:42 pm

foggyjames wrote:I'd definitely wait for a 3dr 360 GLT. They're not *that* rare...just give it a few weeks. Tuning a GTT to 140 bhp will cost big money, and the engine swap will cost 2-4000 to insure....been there....(well...got quotes!)

cheers

James

your right about insurance going a bit high for a engine swap, i am not looking for alot of bhp outta these 300's but how should i approach a turbo conversion on a 360 glt, is the 360glt a bit more sturdy than the 340 engine, as i say i havnt got my licence yet so when i do get it im hoping to keep the insurance cheap and low.

thanks

Nate

edit: what spec is fuse running on his 360 glt if im not being too cheeky to ask?, from some pics it looks like a standard 360 engine with a sexy turbo bunged in there, a ideal setup i'd be looking for

btw sorry for hijacking this thread

Post by **bodejodel** » 10 Apr 2005 06:13 pm

A B200 engine is quite indestructable!
I don't know the details about installing a Turbo on a 360 engine.
Maybe it's enough to replace the head with a 2.3 liter turbo head?
There are plenty of guys here who already dit that trick.
I know for sure a 360 engine and drivetrain are stronger and the power potential is way, WAY, WAY higher!

Post by **340 Nate** » 10 Apr 2005 06:20 pm

a 360 sounds ideal but what has fuse done to his 360 if im not being a arse to ask?, if its just a turbo conversion and some extra bits and bobs put in there i will be going for the 360, i dont really want to take the whole engine out and put something else in there because as i annoyingly keep saying insurance will be insane.

thanks

Nate

Post by **bodejodel** » 10 Apr 2005 06:22 pm

I don't know the details on fuse's car. Send him a PM, he'll be the best person to tell you.

Post by **340 Nate** » 10 Apr 2005 06:23 pm

hope he dont mind me asking

, just a nice example of a 360 with extra power.

thanks

Nate

Post by **bodejodel** » 10 Apr 2005 06:32 pm

He wont mind... I would'nt...

Post by **jtbo** » 10 Apr 2005 07:38 pm

In here Finland company that imported these cars when they were new, offered these turbo kits, those were installed into new cars and if I remember right those had factory warranty. It is R-Sport turbo kit.

We had also Ford Sierras with 1,3 litre turbo engine, that was called Stockman turbo as Stockman was company that imported those cars and installed turbo kits. It was something to do with taxes at that time also.

Of course my memory could be wrong in some details, getting old you know

Turbo installation is not difficult, compression is tad too high, 8-9cr would be nice for high power turbo installation. Cylinderhead is ok, pistons need to be changed, some VW Beetle race pistons will be ok for B230, only that hole in piston is 1mm different size, easy to mod. For B200 I don't know what would be cheap and forged pistons that would also fit in. Perhaps something from B19A could do, even those are not forget, but under 1bar I think that no problem if you have 8.5:1cr if 10:1 and even with programmable ignition and injection there is possibility to piston meltdown, forged pistons are better there.

B200 rods are weak part, something to do with this low friction desing also, piston guides rod somehow and it causes vibrations to rods. (rods, thing that connect piston and crankshaft?)

Good old B19 is almost impossible to destroy too. I will build B19 or B23 based engine some day, 300hp is something I will hunt, getting money and knownledge for that is taking time though, perhaps few years later I will have it

Post by **foggyjames** » 10 Apr 2005 10:01 pm

We've discussed this at great length before...what the hell is Fuses engine?! It's not an R-Sport kit, as that had a sidedraft carb, and his is downdraft. It's most likely a custom job, using B21FT (non-intercooled) parts. Carb turbo is a bit old school though - you really want fuel injection.

If you want to go turbo, take a 360, add the manifolds from a turbo redblock, programmable EMS, and you'll be fine. A high compression turbo with low (saw 4psi) boost will be just fine.

However, what I'd more likely do is uprate the B200 - hotter cam...maybe even a B230 (or 2.5 Penta?) block swap. That way it is invisible.....ya get meh?

cheers

James

Post by **Fuse** » 10 Apr 2005 10:44 pm

GL's engine is mix up of custom parts and 240 R-Sport kit.

It has a Weber32DAT Turbo carb which is fitted on to the stock intake manifold. Exhaust manifold is from 240 turbo or R-Sport turbo kit. Block is B200K, I don't know what cam it has in it. It has pistons from 240 Turbo, con rods I'm not sure if it has weak or stronger ones. Oil return line for turbo is drilled on to the block. Turbo is standard Garret T3. Fuel pump might be changed also. Car was originally owned by one dealer's head mechanic and it was built there. It was converted to turbo at somewhere late 80's.

GLT's engine is B200E block with 240 Turbo exhaust manifold. Turbo is also Garret T3 and oil return line is drilled on to the block. About pistons and con rods I don't know anything but it might also have ones from 240 Turbo or it might be stock.

Compression with stock internals would be pretty high though for a turbo engine without intercooler so I guess that it might have pistons from 240 Turbo. It has A-cam I think. Fuel system is LE-Jet with fuel enrichment system. (fifth injector and a controller box which is controlled by pressure switch and an impulse from the coil) Nowadays it would be best to fit a completely other ECU which can handle boost also but GLT was converted to turbo in somewhere late 80's or early 90's and decent injection systems were very expensive back then so a fuel enrichment system was much cheaper I guess. Fuel pump might be changed but not 100% sure about that. I don't know much about GLT's history in general. Who build it I don't know. Seems though that it wasn't built by the dealer because I suspect that dealer wouldn't have begun turbo conversion for fuel injected model. What I recall is that they did carb models mostly.

Keep in mind that both cars were converted to turbos at the late 80's (GLT might have been built at the 90's also) and engines from 700 or 200-series were expensive back then and there weren't many available at junkyards etc... so building a turbo engine by using the stock engine was better option than completely new engine. Nowadays it is easier to throw in a B230FT or similiar I guess. Good thing though is that both cars, GL and GLT have so called "A-papers." "A" comes from the finnish word "ahdettu" which means turbocharged. In the registration book, where the power of the engine should be marked, there's just a letter A. So GL and GLT have no power limitations whatsoever. If I had the cash I could throw in an engine of anykind. If I would nowadays register here a car with an aftermarket turbo I would have to take the car to the dyno and the power wouldn't be allowed to increase more than 20% according to Finnish laws and it would be marked on to the registration book. Luckily both cars were converted to turbo and MOTted before the law was changed so those regulations don't concern me.