fantastic. ANOTHER problem! the 360 wont idle now! (carb)

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Post by Stavros » 16 Jan 2007 03:21 pm

Ok, now im REALLY confused.

To make the car run fine now the connector on the throttle stop is broke, what do i need to do?

Leave em unplugged?
Plug which one in?
Ground one?
What?

:? :lol:

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Post by jtbo » 16 Jan 2007 04:22 pm

There is three wires in Solex carb of 360,
one for idle solenoid,
one other that looks almost same and comes from same place to thermistor of idle channel (which resides below of idle solenoid at carb base),
then one that connects to throttle stop, this goes to other side of carb, then there is connector, from connector it goes down to wiring loom that is near starter.

Now my car had never this throttle stop wire connected, not even when I got the car, I think I repaired that last time I fiddled with carb, but can't remember for sure, anyway it had no effect to anything in my carb.

My idle adjustment screw has got loose and it did drop to top of intake manifold luckily, lost idle completely because of that, but no other effects.

Solenoid and thermistor both need +12V or car will have trouble running at idle.

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Post by Stavros » 16 Jan 2007 05:50 pm

THREE wires, damnit!

Yes, the wire i mention joins to directly to something underneath the idle solenoid, to this thermistor i guess.

I didnt even notice a wire on the other side!

Balls...

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Post by pettaw » 16 Jan 2007 09:47 pm

haha pwned by Jani. Didn't realize it was an electrically preheated type. What he said ^ all true :)

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Post by Stavros » 17 Jan 2007 11:50 am

jtbo wrote: My idle adjustment screw has got loose and it did drop to top of intake manifold luckily, lost idle completely because of that, but no other effects.
Woo! Told you it can happen :lol:

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Post by foggyjames » 18 Jan 2007 01:37 pm

So what we're saying is that the throttle-stop switch is only 'activated' (i.e. the control unit only pays attention to it) once the revs are above 1700 (or whatever), and below that, it will always engage the idle solenoid, regardless of throttle position? I never thought of it like that...I assumed it looked at throttle position first, and RPM second. D'oh. :lol:

Either way, I absolutely promise you that wire was connected when the car got to Derby. Perhaps someone reconnected it (the garage man / MOT tester? Me, in a moment of 'genius'?), but it was definitely connected, as I went hunting for a spade connector to make the connection 'good' rather than a bare wire shoved into a spade recepticle :)

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Post by pettaw » 19 Jan 2007 01:14 am

Hmm, strange that, there must have been a connection missing somewhere, because I know where I connected that black wire, and it was to a permanent ground.

If that had been connected up, the car would have been undriveable.

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Post by foggyjames » 19 Jan 2007 02:13 pm

Perhaps I just put it down to being 'Hughed' :-D

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Post by antiekeradio » 20 Jan 2007 03:10 pm

doesn't matter whether it looks at idle switch or RPM first, either condition will have to be fulfilled before the idle solenoid is cut off :wink:

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