Any Philosophers out there?

[clitti]

Where does a thought go when you forget it?
The reason i ask is that i went to the shed to get something and by time i got there i'd forgot what i was going there for.It was at this point i said to myself," Where did that thought go?" No sooner had i said this, it popped back in my head.To where did it go and come back from.? Any ideas??

[Speedy88]

Too many drugs.

[MCHUDD]

Hi all.
This happens to me quite regulary when i am out whith my two friends.
Arther Guinness and Dinger Bell{s}
Cheers Mark.

[Speedy88]

I think it's something to do with the fact that it's impossible to think of more than one thing at once, at any given time. As humans we can often remember several things at once because we quickly alternate between each thing so it's still "fresh" in the mind. I think the limit on such things is something like 7. Which is why when you go into the next room, you've already seen and thought of 7 new things, forgotten to remember the thing you were going in there for and suddenly it's gone. It's now in your sub-concious which is why it can be triggered off again and you once again remember, but it needs an external trigger.

Something like that, it's been years since I did psychology.

[Speedy88]

Also apparently booze is terrible for the short term memory because you actually think of too much at once and loose track of the original point. This leads me onto the condition ADD which is probably for another time, but can be beneficial for creativeness because you're thinking of so much at once.

Which is why you don't make any fucking sense when you're pissed. But all your ideas are awesome It's true!

[volvosneverdie]

I think it's something to do with the fact that it's impossible to think of more than one thing at once,.

Do the mental calculations required to catch a ball in flight count as thinking of more than one thing at a time?

Gravity, velocity, trajectorty, spin, drag, etc etc.

Sometimes we think about so much at once, we dont even realise we are thinking at all.

[Speedy88]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYpXxRWHLNs

[clitti]

Hmm.....Well.....I have'nt drunk for about 8 weeks and as a serving member of H.M Forces drugs is a no no.
Heres my theory.
Thoughts have ther origins in the human mind which is full of emotions. The thought you had, that you forgot, gets jealous that you forgot it and in its stubbourness it refuses to come back until you think about it so much that it gets overcome with admiration and is flattered that you are trying to remember it so hard and realises that you really did care about it and reveals itself.Sometimes just a little bit and not all of it,just to tease you and see if you really are interested in it and if you keep giving it your full attention it gives in and becomes a whole thought again.
Other times you just don't give a sh*t about it and it does'nt give a sh*t about you.And you just forget about it. But heres the wierdest bit of it all though.How do you forget about something that you could'nt remember in the first place.?
Maybe i should start drinking again.!!!!

[valman]

Too many drugs.

this,
while on the topic of philosophy and thoughts i'd like to share this it goes over thoughts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDMzvJOu9vQ
its an interesting concept which makes a lot of sense, all the other videos from the series are worth watching too

[jtbo]

Trouble is that your ram is not ECC type, so any glitch makes it hit nothing and main processor needs to recreate that thought which you then 'remember'. With ECC memory however glitch does not make thought to disappear in first place.

What happened to you is what I meet daily, in fact today it has happened about 10 times, that is quite typical amount, only thing is that it very rarely comes back to me until I find again that I need that specific tool etc.

Neurology doctor claimed that it is just normal when you have more than 30 on your odometer, for me it is a pain, I forget what I'm saying, sometimes I find being room where I have never been before but it usually comes back in those situations in few seconds, but it is not getting any better at least.

Maybe question of where though have gone is wrong one, maybe it would be better to ask where did you go that thought could not follow and got lost? I think that might be more appropriate, just before you realized that why you did go to shed, you probably can remember very tiny brief moment of coming from someplace, just split second missing from time when you walked into shed? That is how it is with me at least.

Most likely it is error of electrochemical reactions but not knowing what kind of error and what causes that is rather irritating.

[Nimminz]

Heres my theory.
Thoughts have ther origins in the human mind which is full of emotions. The thought you had, that you forgot, gets jealous that you forgot it and in its stubbourness it refuses to come back until you think about it so much that it gets overcome with admiration and is flattered that you are trying to remember it so hard and realises that you really did care about it and reveals itself.Sometimes just a little bit and not all of it,just to tease you and see if you really are interested in it and if you keep giving it your full attention it gives in and becomes a whole thought again.

Nice way of thinking about... well ... thinking

Psychology's always something thats really interested me, as well as sociology. I didn't do either at school or college, just looked at my own leisure through endless wikipedia pages, plenty of tv programs and documentaries and read a few books recently, 1984 by george orwell was rather canny

[jtbo]

Nice way of thinking about... well ... thinking

Psychology's always something thats really interested me, as well as sociology. I didn't do either at school or college, just looked at my own leisure through endless wikipedia pages, plenty of tv programs and documentaries and read a few books recently, 1984 by george orwell was rather canny

Psychology is indeed quite interesting stuff, also I like Philosophy, used to read lot of that too when younger, but I should start again from zero as it is so long ago since I read that stuff.

Thinking in general is my way of having fun, but I don't feel following some general path or such, but I let thought carry my thinking where ever it leads, that way I find often many interesting point of views that I would not see otherwise.

I think almost from anything that there must be also another way and there usually is, that is of course then asking for trouble as most don't think alternative possibilities, but more of go by what they feel is easiest and at least in here anything else is something you should not even think or at least not to say aloud, one way country so to speak.

For example, I like to separate emotion from thinking, emotions cause just bigger mess, so it is easier to acknowledge emotion as adviser, but not let emotion to say final word, that way one can find other possibilities to same situation. Human being is emotion based only if human being allows him to be emotion based, teachings that claim one should just go with emotions have many purposes that all aim to give better control of group of people. Control is important for constant economic growth impossibility for example.

It would be disaster if everyone would stop reacting by their emotions and would think first all other possibilities, sales would drop, people might say no to way countries are ruled etc. It would be disaster, so that is why it is told that human is emotion based creature, sure human can be, but also can be other ways.