JTbo's vario issues (vacuum test results)

[macplaxton]

Yeah, the earlier models only had the drivers seat heated - and it was thermostatically controlled rather than with a switch in the later models, the one in my 343 never worked as far as I could tell (and most are the same!)!

Yes that's true, but mine works.... I discovered by accident, thinking I had a trouser accident.

[volvosneverdie]

I try to make this car to be mint, so need to get all missing bits at some point.

Let us know if you need anything hunting down on this side of the water.

Good on you for having such big plans for it!

[jtbo]

I will put up a list, when I have got all things listed, must also look a bit of money side, future is looking to be rather grim it looks like so, but I can also get little pocket money by selling french crap, also I might sell 240 to whom sell me 343, it is rather nice.

Good thing is that car is not really missing much at all, some bits are maybe not in perfect condition, but all bits are there and working with metal is not very expensive, just need to build some skills for that

Rental car horrors, now I have truly experienced those, no high beam, wheel bearing gone, rear dampers dead, thermostat failed, interior did smell like smoky pub and so on, quite horrible.

[MCHUDD]

Hi Volvodspec.
Thanks for that information.
I would hate to send someone the wrong part.
Cheers Mark.

[jtbo]

Was there differences in 1981 to 1985 in engine? I guess renix came around 1984?

I'm browsing spare parts catalog and I find that spark plugs are listed only from 1985 onwards, now I don't know if recommended model was changed from 1981 to 1985.

Also oil filter is listed to be same as in diesel and B172, however with B14 it is from 1984 onwards while D16 is listed from 1977 and I don't think there was diesel in MkI, so these catalogs are not building much of trust to me

I'm planning to get points, plugs and all filters, then give full service. Also I did place order from EMV rebuild kit, it should then be rather well serviced.

I plan to change oils of variomatic and diff too and adjust valves, there will be not much else to service, I think.

If rpm relay has fault that is of course one thing to fix, few components needed for that, but I think it is ok.

Idle had tiny bit of uneveness, occasionally it did sound putt, but I think it is just need of proper service.

[macplaxton]

Pre-85 are the old 3/4" threaded filters like the red blocks. After that, the B14 went M20.

I've got a few genuine ones here - Volvo 3517857-3 - ati-drain valve works on these too. Failing that, I'd use a Mann, but nothing much else when it comes to decent oil filters.

[jtbo]

Pre-85 are the old 3/4" threaded filters like the red blocks. After that, the B14 went M20.

I've got a few genuine ones here - Volvo 3517857-3 - ati-drain valve works on these too. Failing that, I'd use a Mann, but nothing much else when it comes to decent oil filters.

Hmm, I did another search and now it actually lists B14 filter and B200 filter as same up to 1984, but that filter is not for 1988 B200 for some reason

6.90 euros for original Volvo filter, it is not very expensive?

Also now I got it to list spark plugs, there seem to be Bosch number 7 for 1981 car, same is labeled as leaded fuel for later year car and for unleaded fuel later year car is number 9, we have not had lead in petrol as long as I have had a license, probably even longer than leaded was banned.

So I think WR7DC+ SuperPlus is correct one, or similar from some other brand. Hmm, should I use some additive in petrol?

[volvodspec]

ditch that manual, it's full of rubbish.

it's quite an early B14.3, i'm not sure wether that has hardened valve seats yet as it's not renixed yet.. my best bet is looking at the B14.2E that could have been in there (same year, just with Weber + point ignition instead of Solex) wich also needs lead-additive.

anyway; 3/4 thread oil filter, and the plugs are the same as later type, only the B14.0 needs different plugs as head design is completely different

[jtbo]

ditch that manual, it's full of rubbish.

it's quite an early B14.3, i'm not sure wether that has hardened valve seats yet as it's not renixed yet.. my best bet is looking at the B14.2E that could have been in there (same year, just with Weber + point ignition instead of Solex) wich also needs lead-additive.

anyway; 3/4 thread oil filter, and the plugs are the same as later type, only the B14.0 needs different plugs as head design is completely different

It is actually dealer's catalog which from I have to pick which I buy, yes it is rubbish and full of errors, so need to find some info which should be correct, might take a peek from green book, that should have something too.

B14.3 had renix already? When I get to car again, I must examine which motor it really is, but lead-additive should not harm the car either?

[volvodspec]

no, as macplaxton says, from modelyear 84 and later is renixed
B14.3 is with and without renix ignition, depending on manufacturing year; yours being a very late mk1; a modelyear 82 it has points ignition

[macplaxton]

OEM Volvo filter is the daddy and as you have already noted, very reasonably priced.

Forget Bosch plugs. Use NGK.

Either stick additive in, or take my lazy approach and just run the original head into the ground and then swap for a later one.

[jtbo]

Green book has some confusing things

1980-1983 has spark plugs as 273597 - 5 from 1984 number is different and upto 1979 it is different.

There is no ignition timing for B14.3E, well only for 1984, but there is B14.3S, however S should have some sort of fuel cutoff at engine braking thing if I did read up properly, it is bit odd as there are other remarks to B14.3E being around on that time.

How these different engines were sold is mystery, maybe different model got different engine as different markets too, there are many of them, S and E models with those .1 to .4, lot of combinations.

Distributor is different in many models, maybe there is label of some sort revealing number, there are 3 types of points too on sale for that year model.

Technical specification pdf from technical resources has quite lot of data, need to check also what is chassis number of my car.

It just adds to confusion that for same engine code they have used many different parts.

Just need to translate that sparkplug Volvo part number to Bosch / NGK part number now, of course getting ones from Volvo might be possibility too

NGK plugs die so easily, Bosch has been winner in my 360, impossible to kill and I have tried very hard, NGK plugs died almost instantly at the start when I forgot to connect MAP hose to megasquirt, Bosch plugs seemed to ignore that ultra rich mixture completely

[volvodspec]

B14.3S has weber 32DIR carb + pusairs and EGR, after 1985 they named it B14.4S while it remained allmost the same engine

once you have experience on every year/type of B14 it's not that difficult or hard, and it's much easyer to split up the parts that actually are different but there aren't that many oldies left around; pre-renix it's allways a small quest for wich and what parts you need, as that's where most thing go wrong; mainly because documentation isn't allways correct

[macplaxton]

Well if you can't bring yourself to use NGKs (perfectly fine things they are ), then use NIppon Densos (W20EP-U)

Just need to translate that sparkplug Volvo part number to Bosch / NGK part number now, of course getting ones from Volvo might be possibility too

NGK (http://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/):

(Part numbers in order: Recommended / Alternative / Upgrade / LPG)(My picks in bold)

300 SERIES 1.4 B14.0: –> 79 BP6H-VG (0.6mm) / BP6HS (0.6mm) / BPR6HIX (0.6mm)/ BPR6HIX (gap is preset)
300 SERIES 1.4 B14.1, B14.2, B14.3: 80 –> 83 BP5E (0.7mm) / BP5ES (0.7mm) / BPR5EIX (0.7mm) / LPG2 (gap is preset)
300 SERIES 1.4 B14.3, B14.4: 84 –> 86 BPR5E (0.7mm) / BPR5ES (0.7mm) / BPR5EIX (0.7mm) / LPG2 (gap is preset)
300 SERIES 1.4 B14.4: 87 –> ZGR5B (0.8mm)

Let's look at the codes:

As Anjo says, the B14.00 are only 12.7mm (½") thread reach, all others being 19mm (3/4"). For the later ones (which are all the same physical dimensions) the differences are a trend towards a bigger gap, colder plug, and resistor variations.

[jtbo]

So difference that came in 1984 was resistor type of plugs, that is why number is different in green book.

Resistor type had mostly benefits and I think that it was ok to replace non resistor model with resistor model.

However if I would go for full restoration, I think that it is Volvo plugs that I should use, at least must ask quote from air filter and plugs as well as some ignition parts, oil filter I already got, genuine Volvo