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punky_krista
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help needed
i manged to get the redline home after the breakes went today. but i need some help already. the car engine keeps cutting out and kangarooisng forward when accelerating. any ideas? thuoght that the long run might sort it out..but it just seems to have got worse poor thing.
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have emailed you with my thoughts re the problems ,
trouble is all the "experts " are in devon playing roof chop at the moment
as I have said in the email , the brakes really surprised me because they have always been spot on and were checked , cleaned and adjusted.
I dont think it can be dirt in the carb as I have recently replaced the fuel filter and the dizzy cap and rotor arm have been replaced (unless damp has got into the cap ) might be worth a check
trouble is all the "experts " are in devon playing roof chop at the moment
as I have said in the email , the brakes really surprised me because they have always been spot on and were checked , cleaned and adjusted.
I dont think it can be dirt in the carb as I have recently replaced the fuel filter and the dizzy cap and rotor arm have been replaced (unless damp has got into the cap ) might be worth a check
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Hiya! Yep, most people have been away playing in Devon. Well, sorry to hear of your problems so early on in your ownership of the Redline. When you say the brakes have gone........ in what way exactly, does it take a lot of pressure to stop, a lot of pedal travel, or are they squealing or grinding? It could be that a brake pipe has burst, or that the pads or worn. It could also be that in the time it had stood, the discs have rusted a bit, and if it wasn't driven with careful braking to start with to clean them up, they'll have scored the discs. What's the brake fluid reservior level like? With a few more details we might be able to guide you on this one.
I understand the expansion tank has cracked? I've got a spare you could have if you need it, but they're common enough to find. The 1.7's recirculate the coolant when it is running through the expansion tank, so it gets more heat through it, often causing it to crack over time.
Sounds like an air leak in some form or another for the cutting out. Andy the resident expert will have much more of an idea on where to start with that.
Pete
I understand the expansion tank has cracked? I've got a spare you could have if you need it, but they're common enough to find. The 1.7's recirculate the coolant when it is running through the expansion tank, so it gets more heat through it, often causing it to crack over time.
Sounds like an air leak in some form or another for the cutting out. Andy the resident expert will have much more of an idea on where to start with that.
Pete
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Don't trust anything the AA say about that sort of stuff. They're fantastic if the problem is obvious, like a flat battery or split hose, but complicated diagnostics particularly on an older car with no 'brain' to tell you what's wrong is a step too far.
Tha carb problem. IIRC Mick's car had a Weber conversion on it, and therefore won't have an anti-run on valve so you can discount a fault with that I reckon, but on the original Solex's if that's not working (normally Fuse 10 corroded) that can cause bad running and cutting out.
I would say 99% sure its an air leak problem from somewhere, but the first thing to do is to take the carb off the engine and strip it looking for dirt. Take the carb off the car completely and sit it somewhere safe and open it up. Tip the petrol in the float chamber out carefully. Then take out the jets in the top. I'd do them one at a time. There'll be two sets of main jets and two idle jets. Make sure there's no dirt in them and also make sure there's no dirt in the float chamber of the carb either. If you've got an air line then you can blow through everything, but what ever you do, don't poke anything through the jets, they're carefully calibrated orifices and are quite soft brass and can be damaged easily.
Then put it all back together and see how she runs. Be careful with the choke cable adjustment, cos the cable distorts as the engine warms up and you'll find that if you set it with the choke completely off when the car's cold, it'll come on slightly as it gets hot under the bonnet and the idle will start raising up, so you want to set it so the choke knob is ever so slightly sticking out when the chokes in fully cold, but just in enough so the light doesn't come on. I hope that's clear
BTW, it won't run properly until all the hoses and covers have been put back on, so don't bother trying to run it until you've bolted the air filter back on and replaced the filter and lid. If it still runs badly, then check for an air leak. Start the car and get it idling somehow, however badly, keep the choke partially out, whatever. then you spray WD-40 or wave an unlit blowlamp round the carb base. If there's an air leak, the idle will pick up immediately as it sucks in the fumes instead of the air. That normally means new carb needed or if you've got a friendly machine shop, getting the base re-flatted. Alternatively get one from a scrappy and put a straight edge across it, to see if its warped or not (Unfortunately very common problem on these 1.7s so finding an un-warped one in a scrappy isn't gonna be easy) Sometimes the manifold flange warps too, but not normally so badly.
Hope that helps.
Good luck with it and post any questions you have.
BTW, Mick, experts didn't need the inverted commas
Tha carb problem. IIRC Mick's car had a Weber conversion on it, and therefore won't have an anti-run on valve so you can discount a fault with that I reckon, but on the original Solex's if that's not working (normally Fuse 10 corroded) that can cause bad running and cutting out.
I would say 99% sure its an air leak problem from somewhere, but the first thing to do is to take the carb off the engine and strip it looking for dirt. Take the carb off the car completely and sit it somewhere safe and open it up. Tip the petrol in the float chamber out carefully. Then take out the jets in the top. I'd do them one at a time. There'll be two sets of main jets and two idle jets. Make sure there's no dirt in them and also make sure there's no dirt in the float chamber of the carb either. If you've got an air line then you can blow through everything, but what ever you do, don't poke anything through the jets, they're carefully calibrated orifices and are quite soft brass and can be damaged easily.
Then put it all back together and see how she runs. Be careful with the choke cable adjustment, cos the cable distorts as the engine warms up and you'll find that if you set it with the choke completely off when the car's cold, it'll come on slightly as it gets hot under the bonnet and the idle will start raising up, so you want to set it so the choke knob is ever so slightly sticking out when the chokes in fully cold, but just in enough so the light doesn't come on. I hope that's clear
BTW, it won't run properly until all the hoses and covers have been put back on, so don't bother trying to run it until you've bolted the air filter back on and replaced the filter and lid. If it still runs badly, then check for an air leak. Start the car and get it idling somehow, however badly, keep the choke partially out, whatever. then you spray WD-40 or wave an unlit blowlamp round the carb base. If there's an air leak, the idle will pick up immediately as it sucks in the fumes instead of the air. That normally means new carb needed or if you've got a friendly machine shop, getting the base re-flatted. Alternatively get one from a scrappy and put a straight edge across it, to see if its warped or not (Unfortunately very common problem on these 1.7s so finding an un-warped one in a scrappy isn't gonna be easy) Sometimes the manifold flange warps too, but not normally so badly.
Hope that helps.
Good luck with it and post any questions you have.
BTW, Mick, experts didn't need the inverted commas
hmm, my thought is, whilst idling, spray wd40 with one of those red hoses all round the carb. when the engine revs rise, you've found your leak
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redline
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Andy the quotation marks or speech marks as they are sometimes called (pettaw wrote:BTW, Mick, experts didn't need the inverted commas
not inverted commas ) were totally relevant and appropriate in this context , I quote
"Quotation Marks with Direct and Indirect Quotations
Quoting Prose
Direct quotations are another person's exact words--either spoken or in print--incorporated into your own writing. " lol
Foggy , Pete , Steve , Chris , Pete and your good self are often reffered to as our resident experts of all things 300 (along with Mac of course )
and I was just pointing out to Krista that you were all away last weekend hence the lack of early responses to her unfortunate situaition .
It was meant as a compliment , although (as far as I know) only Mac is volvo trained, to me you guys are all experts through hands on experience ( in my humble opinion the best kind ) and have always been on hand to help me out .
as it turns out and unbeknown to me the redline had developed a hole in the exhaust downpipe just below the manifold , a lump of exhaust paste later and (according to Krista ) the car is running like a clock, the brakes are fine now as well so hopefully thats the end of the problems ( apart from it needing its second replacement header tank this year )
"Double ("...") and single ('...') quotation marks or inverted commas (you can use either term) can be used in the same ways. Whether you use double or single is up to you." From Sheffield Hallams, universitywriting.shu.ac.uk site.
Anyway, the meant I was only joking. I only see myself as an enthusiast really. I'm not Volvo trained at all and only find out most things by accident so was flattered you called us "experts" at all 
This thing about the exhaust is a strange one, have only heard about that once before, where the downpipe on Nessy came slightly loose and the lack of back pressure caused all sorts of strange problems. Another thing to add to the list.
I've replied to Krista's post in the demand section.
Anyway, the
meant I was only joking. I only see myself as an enthusiast really. I'm not Volvo trained at all and only find out most things by accident so was flattered you called us "experts" at all This thing about the exhaust is a strange one, have only heard about that once before, where the downpipe on Nessy came slightly loose and the lack of back pressure caused all sorts of strange problems. Another thing to add to the list.
I've replied to Krista's post in the demand section.
Just to come storming in here with my grammar nazi hat on would be quite rude, but I'm going to do it anyway!
To be totally correct, mick should have put 'experts' in italics
If anyone cares (and I expect very few do!) my reasoning is below!
The use of a single quotation mark has only been popular since the advent of the typewriter, where the usage was to seperate a quote within a quote, as typewriters make no distinction between opening and closing marks.
Without them, the vertical double marks can become confusing and can sometimes alter the meaning of a statement as their position is not defined by their angle, as would be conventional in handwritten form.
It is common to see both used but the order differs whether you are English or American. for example:
'My mother told me: 'Shakespere said, "To thine own self be true".'
Which is the standard English way, the Americans would have you believe that 2 comes before one, but that makes no sense to me!
Using quotation marks to encapsulate a word, however, is wrong; as you are not quoting anybody, but merely accentuating a point.
To be totally correct, mick should have put 'experts' in italics
If anyone cares (and I expect very few do!) my reasoning is below!
The use of a single quotation mark has only been popular since the advent of the typewriter, where the usage was to seperate a quote within a quote, as typewriters make no distinction between opening and closing marks.
Without them, the vertical double marks can become confusing and can sometimes alter the meaning of a statement as their position is not defined by their angle, as would be conventional in handwritten form.
It is common to see both used but the order differs whether you are English or American. for example:
'My mother told me: 'Shakespere said, "To thine own self be true".'
Which is the standard English way, the Americans would have you believe that 2 comes before one, but that makes no sense to me!
Using quotation marks to encapsulate a word, however, is wrong; as you are not quoting anybody, but merely accentuating a point.
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Your never too old to learn Dave but I'm not so sure your right this timed3k4y0 wrote:To be totally correct, mick should have put 'experts' in italics
The use of a single quotation mark has only been popular since the advent of the typewriter, where the usage was to seperate a quote within a quote, as typewriters make no distinction between opening and closing marks.
'My mother told me: 'Shakespere said, "To thine own self be true".'
Using quotation marks to encapsulate a word, however, is wrong; as you are not quoting anybody, but merely accentuating a point.
It wasn't a quote within a quote as in the first case
and I was not accentuating a point as in the second
I was using this rule
"Quotation Marks with Direct and Indirect Quotations ,Quoting Prose
Direct quotations are another person's exact words--either spoken or in print--incorporated into your own writing. "
ie other peoples exact words
being as the guys are often reffered to as our resident experts ,I thought that was correct grammar.
for example
dai you appear to be the sus expert
wjp01908 ( Will ) is our resident vario expert
having a handy expert (Andy... again He must be getting fed up with my cars!)
mind you ,its ironic that neither will nor Dai were at the meet lol
discuss lol
By putting 'experts' in quotation marks implied you where being facetious and disputing the validity of it (as described by Fowler in The King's English), which i don't believe you where.
Knowing you, I believe you were using it to show that the term is used affectionatley, more in the sense of a nickname than anything else, by which I feel quotation marks aren't the correct way to achieve this, but italics more appropriate.
Technically, and to the letter of the law, yes, you are 'correct' to use quotes around it, (see what I did there
) but as punctuation's main purpose is to 'clarify syntax and meaning' your use is counter productive, inviting argument, and allowing people the opportunity to take offence where none was intended, should they wish to.
Knowing you, I believe you were using it to show that the term is used affectionatley, more in the sense of a nickname than anything else, by which I feel quotation marks aren't the correct way to achieve this, but italics more appropriate.
Technically, and to the letter of the law, yes, you are 'correct' to use quotes around it, (see what I did there
) but as punctuation's main purpose is to 'clarify syntax and meaning' your use is counter productive, inviting argument, and allowing people the opportunity to take offence where none was intended, should they wish to.
