Volvo 340 Enduro Rally Car

Post by **Jason B** » 30 Jan 2008 12:05 am

lol, I'm interested in a cage at some point in the future too. Does he make cages or is he just a good supplier?

Post by **sven360** » 30 Jan 2008 12:29 am

He ordered a new S/Devices cage thru Demon tweeks.Must have plenty o' money

Seeing how S/D went bust gettin' a cage might now be a problem in UK.

Home brew cages are fine for road rallies but full on stage needs the real deal.
Road rally class on a stage rally-car must run to road rally spec re carbs etc but stage spec re safety gear extinguishers/cage etc.

TBH endurance rally is the MSA's way of knifing road rallying in the back in my opinion.
Each to their own but I don't mind a wee bit o' sport on the Queen's highway, thank you

Post by **foggyjames** » 30 Jan 2008 01:33 am

Last thing I heard an SD cage was about £300. You need to ask for one for a 343, as they didn't seem to realise that they're all pretty much the same thing. A 3dr cage does fit in a 5dr.

Having said that, I didn't know SD had gone bust, so yes, that might be a problem

cheers

James

Post by **Jason B** » 30 Jan 2008 08:52 am

bugger... Was going to wait until summer to sort one out, is the SD cage just a rear cage (thats all I'm looking for really) if so would it fit in the saloon model ok?

Post by **Chris_C** » 30 Jan 2008 10:36 am

SD have gone bust?! Lame... I was gonna suggest those of us interested look into a group buy in the summer from them direct, I'm after a full jobbie though

Plan B I guess.

Post by **classicswede** » 30 Jan 2008 01:46 pm

Who alse in the UK makes aproved cages?

Post by **Chris_C** » 30 Jan 2008 02:53 pm

Straight from the SD website:

Pre January 1, 2002
FOR INTERNATIONAL MOTORSPORT EVENTS, the regulations stated that as long as the cage was made to the recommended specification laid down in article 253 section 8.2 of the FIA, then no certification or homologation was required.

However if an accepted reputable roll cage manufacturer were to build a cage to its own design it is a requirement that the cage be tested at the main hoop and withstand loads of 7.5w daN vertically, 5.5w daN longitudinally and 1.5w daN laterally, where w = vehicle weight + 75kg. The test and certification could be done by the manufacturer and the certificate issued by the M.S.A. Safety Devices Ltd. always chose to use an outside 3rd party stress analysis engineer.

Post January 1, 2003
The regulations changed regarding homologation of cages for international events. The main changes were:

The front cage had to withstand a load of 3.5w daN (w = vehicle weight + 150kg) applied to the top of the windscreen at an angle of 25 deg x 5 deg (+/- 1 deg). (Reference drawing No. 253 - 38B)

The complete roll cage must withstand a vertical load of 7.5w daN (w = weight of the car + 150 kg) applied on the top of the main roll hoop. (Reference drawing No. 253 - 38B)

The door aperture had to have a vertical member if the distance between initial downwards bend and the final mounting exceeds 200mm. (Reference drawing No. 253 - 4)

The 'B' post hoop required two diagonal members in it, as well as being gusseted in the centre.(Reference drawing No. 253 - 4)

The roof above the driver/ co-driver had to have two cross members in it. For competitions without co-drivers, only one diagonal member had to be fitted but its front connection had to be on the driver's side. (Reference drawing No. 253 - 9)

The actual certification had to be carried out by an institutionalised test house independent to the manufacturer.

Post by **Jason B** » 30 Jan 2008 06:32 pm

sorry chris, what was the relevance of the above?

Post by **sven360** » 30 Jan 2008 07:55 pm

Who knows-S/D liquidated and moved HQ to Newmarket as SD International after what some consider to be a shady management buy out-order a cage off of them and it comes from Poland as all manufacturing is done there now

Post by **foggyjames** » 30 Jan 2008 08:10 pm

No, I think you'll struggle to get a 3dr cage into a 4dr. I believe it has to go in through the tailgate...but you'd probably be wise to talk to SD themselves on that one.

cheers

James

Post by **Chris_C** » 30 Jan 2008 09:05 pm

Relavant in that anyone can make approved cages Jason

Post by **Jason B** » 31 Jan 2008 03:53 am

Thought as much, but was quite drunk at the time!! (I have now progressed into the very drunk region, and have no more thought on roll cages as of yet)