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Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 13 May 2011 05:57 pm
by Speedy88
Stop press! Supermarkets are trying to make as much money as possible
Prices will always rise. Inflation goes up, prices increase. Inflation goes down, costs increase and prices increase

Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike-Supermarket rip-off
Posted: 13 May 2011 10:38 pm
by macplaxton
Hell Driver wrote:Result: Fuel price at the pump maintains its price despite 15% lower oil price. Also people come in thinking it's now £1.38/litre having seen it at that the day before.
Ach come on, crude oil doesn't get bought and delivered the next day... And what was "big oil" outlets charging on the same days?
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 14 May 2011 09:48 pm
by Hell Driver
No it must take weeks maybe to reach the pumps from the ground but sainsbury's price seamed to track the movements of oil. I was suggesting that it was a cynical attempt to make the price appear drop in line with what people expect, timed with the news filtering down the the oil price had fallen. In other words here's your price drop. Lets see if petrol drops in accordance with a more delayed effect in a few weeks. Anyway, it could just be a price alteration depending on other local garages changing theirs.
I rang up for heating oil on Monday, given price of 59.9 p/litre
Rang the same company Tuesday and the price was 57.5 p/litre as they had had 'a new delivery' (not quite sure what that meant as they pick it up from the oil refinery in their own tankers) It would appear that prices can change quite quickly at the refinery.
I would suspect that if the oil price rises/falls and you are sitting on a stockpile of fuel, its bought/sold based at the price of the day.
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 15 May 2011 12:01 am
by jtbo
There is no delay when prices are getting up however

Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 15 May 2011 02:01 am
by macplaxton
The truth lies somewhere in the middle. There will be an element of what the competitors are doing in the locality, there will be an element of profiteering and something to do with supply and demand. In what proportions I don't know.
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 15 May 2011 09:01 am
by CBA
fuel pump near me is giving about 20 liters for a tenner..
Jerry cans to the ready on payday!
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 15 May 2011 09:07 am
by CBA
BTW 'bout fukushima - if you have done your "i'm an inhabitant of the planet and I'd like to know how radioactive it is, and therefore how deformed my children will be" research, you'd know that it is actually quite bad.
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 15 May 2011 12:25 pm
by jtbo
With 900 miles per tank, I can pretty well choose where I fill up, don't need to pick local expensive option.
I'm sure there is web page that monitors UK petrol and diesel prices? I know one we have here and which US residents have, but don't know about Germany and UK.
Find Land
http://www.polttoaine.net
We blow first, ask after -land
http://www.gasbuddy.com
Gallonlitregallon convert, type in google:
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convert uk gallons to us gallons
convert us gallons to uk gallons
convert uk gallons to litres
convert us gallons to litres
convert litres to uk gallons
convert litres to us gallons
For mpg conversion
http://www.markporthouse.net/rangie/fue ... ersion.htm
Money changer, but beware it does not print pounds:
http://www.xe.com/ucc/
This way you can envy other places too
So our litre of diesel is around £1,22 (122p) + £480 of additional taxes per year, which depends from car of course, but for average yearly mileage it makes diesel litre to cost over 170p so in reality our prices are not so low as it first seems, here they play with statistics quite a lot so to make things look better than they really are.
There is no difference in petrol prices, at least not much, but even petrol car owner need to pay around a 100€ in a year extra from owning a car, maybe your road tax is the same?
When time passes I'm sure numbers are looking again bit different, but situation at the moment is like that.
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 15 May 2011 06:21 pm
by macplaxton
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 15 May 2011 08:59 pm
by Hell Driver
That's a very useful web site, (I have it bookmarked

) I used it when I went down to Cornwall, to pick some parts up from Theo, to find cheapest fuel on the route. Very useful when traveling longer distances in unfamiliar territory!
Prices on the Motorway services must be

at the moment. They were 5 months ago when I went down there.
Has anyone on here had any experience with the pros and cons of fitting and using LPG?
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 16 May 2011 05:35 pm
by sven360
Hell Driver wrote:
Has anyone on here had any experience with the pros and cons of fitting and using LPG?
There are no cons if fitted correctly.
I done have over 14 ltrs of US of goodness on what should run me cooker

Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 16 May 2011 05:42 pm
by jtbo
How do you get LPG from tank to motor when there is -40C? It was hopeless to try grill some sausages at -25C, stuff refused to be in gas like form, however old fossil fuel, coal, did work just fine
Grilled chicken came out rather well at +5C, but it did require warm bottle.
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 16 May 2011 05:57 pm
by sven360
Dunno,I don't live in the artic but have used with no probs to -15c.
The vapouriser has water jacket and won't flick to gas until it's nice and warm

Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 18 May 2011 11:16 am
by Fuse
Cons for LPG system here in Finland is that government will tax you over 300 euros per day if you use a vehicle on the public roads which uses liquified gases as fuel source... Yes, over 300 euros per day. That is just to keep the tax money coming from the more common fuels...
Natural gas/bio gas vehicles then again don't have any fuel taxes because it's the "green thinking" and government image polishing, but in reality it doesn't have anything to do with "green values." There are only few natural gas/bio gas stations in Finland where private citizen can fill up his/her vehicle, so it's not as big of a threat as LPG cars would be for conventional fuels so it was safe for government to remove taxation from natural gas/bio gas to polish their "green image".
Re: Fuel Prices-Highway Robbery morelike
Posted: 18 May 2011 05:00 pm
by Hell Driver
You mean 300 euros a day if they catch you? How do they police that, if a car runs on either surely you just switch over to petrol! How do they prove it, or is it just 300 a day if you take a car with the conversion on the road? Thats mad as you'd not even spend that in a day on petrol, let alone that much in tax on petrol!