right i didnt want to spend too much money on this engine but it is soo underpowered aparently standard its only got around 80 brake which is naff so i was wondering if anyone did a cam , an exhaust manifold and a better carb for in so i could try and bump it to around the 100 brake mark so its got a bit more poke cheers

Fit a Renault 16v lump mate.

L14MNP wrote:Fit a Renault 16v lump mate.

Yup. Cheaper than the things you've mentioned.

And faster.

how much is the 16v lump and how hard is it to wire up. id rather keep it carbed then go to injection its proberly easyer that way, well easyer for me anyway so does any one have any idea on cost of the 16v lump ? i did see a post about 1.7 turbo lump is that out of a 480? is that easy to wire up?

If you're going 16v then seriously consider injection. It will save you countless headaches in the future, basically once you set it up it is unlikely you'll ever have to touch it again. Plus you're likely to get optimum performance out of it. Whereas carbs have many problems which you will know about already.

azza_126 wrote:i did see a post about 1.7 turbo lump is that out of a 480? is that easy to wire up?

Ignore the wiring, the entire swap is a ball ache compared to a valver.

For a sneaky +10hp, find a 440/460 B18KP, grab the carb, the cam and the renix unit. The cam is the same as the B18F too, the drillings for the carb jets are in the green book, but I can't remember if the renix is shared with anything (I doubt it is) and all the above will be pointless without that.

The cheapest easy and can still be kept carb power is to fit a B20F from a 440/460/480.