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Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 08:45 am
by samueljon
Sorry about all the questions just trying to learn the car :)

right what are the pros and cons of running the webbers on the F7R engine?
also what sort of price am i looking at?
and what happens to the fueling side of the ecu?
and would this stop the high idle after a hard drive? (i know this is the speed sensor)

Cheers
Sam

Again sorry about all the questions

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 08:54 am
by Chris_C
samueljon wrote:and would this stop the high idle after a hard drive? (i know this is the speed sensor)
Erm... what? An F7R shouldn't idle high ever (well, it'll idle at 1100 on a cold start and if you *really* go for it will idle at 1100 for about 30 secs to keep the water pump going but I wouldnt consider from 950 to 1100 high. No worse than carbs will be at least.

Webers - £200, Manifold - £100 if you are lucky, Mappable spark system - £not sure, but not cheap, Tuning - £half a day on a rolling road.

My views on running F7R's on carbs are fairly well known on here, so I might not be too helpful though

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 09:57 am
by samueljon
after a hard drive the car runs at 2000rpm and doesnt settle down unless the car is switched of and started again.

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 11:23 am
by Chris_C
Ok, someone has fiddled with the idle side of it.

Does the ICV go to the same air intake as the main throttle body? There seems to be a necessity of a small pressure differential there so if the ICV is on a separate filter it plays up a bit (my MOT chap mentioned it to me, and it cured a few problems I was having) Once you've done that, the air bleed bypass jobbie on the throttle body is mission critical, there a sweet spot of about 1/8th of a turn between silly high random idles and stalling at junctions.

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 11:36 am
by samueljon
so its not a speed sensor issue? as it only does this after traveling above 60ish i think

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 01:03 pm
by Speedy88
Hold on now, I was always aware that without a speed sensor an F7R would idle high after driving hard. Otherwise what's the point of even having it? I once knocked the cable to mine out and I got these exact symptoms.

Also mag's one did this for a while if I'm not wrong because he didn't even have one?

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 01:21 pm
by samueljon
i dont think this one has one as the bloke i bought it off couldnt find out what was causing it, i think that the issue is the speed sensor ( well the symptoms point to it )

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 01:27 pm
by Chris_C
Sounds like it could be either, certainly I've had the issue and that was fixed by doing what I said above, I have a speed sensor.

Might just be a case of tracking down a few different things bud, I had several problems causing my bad idling and took a while to get on top of all of them!

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 03:53 pm
by volvosneverdie
My friends started working in a prison giving advice to convicted prostitutes.
I asked him what the job was like ......................

He said, well..... its got is Pros and Cons...

Threadjack ends.

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 04:47 pm
by samueljon
i will look over it, but i dont think it has a speed sensor car idles fine until i go 60 or above then it wont settle back down

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 10:25 pm
by 340GLT
That is speed sensor. Dont forget chris your car has always had the speed sensor.
Adam

Re: Pro's and Con's

Posted: 11 Oct 2010 11:36 pm
by Chris_C
Agreed mate, but Fake showed pretty much identical symptoms when the ICV wasnt plumbed correctly and it had a dubious MAP sensor