Engine trouble
Engine trouble
Afternoon all,
query, my car no longer starts. when the key is turned something (coil?) clicks but nothing else happens, no starter no nothing. electrics works or at least the lights and radio work and i've check the start inhibitor fuse and its fine.
The coil ceased to be about 5 months ago and was replaced with one found in a shed by the old man i bought the car off. wouldn't suprise me if this was the case. however last time the coil went the car was troublesom for a few days before breaking down. today it just doesn't work.
any ideas?
query, my car no longer starts. when the key is turned something (coil?) clicks but nothing else happens, no starter no nothing. electrics works or at least the lights and radio work and i've check the start inhibitor fuse and its fine.
The coil ceased to be about 5 months ago and was replaced with one found in a shed by the old man i bought the car off. wouldn't suprise me if this was the case. however last time the coil went the car was troublesom for a few days before breaking down. today it just doesn't work.
any ideas?
1986 1.4DL - 147,000 - C746 VRT
It sounds to me as if your starter motor has failed. The 'click' you hear is the solenoid firing the gear to engage with the flywheel but the motor isn't turning. Starter motors often come to a stop in the same place every time so end up with wear on the bushes and armature in the same place so eventually failing.
There are two ways to see if it is the starter at fault.
1, hit the starter repeatedly for a few seconds with a hammer, broom handle, stone, fist or other twatting implement - then try and start it.
2, put the car in gear, release the handbrake, and try to push the car (forwards or backwards). This often frees up the sticky starter. Then try and start it.
If either of the above methods work then your SM is knackered.
Sudden thought!!
Is the battery fully charged? I know the electrics work, but it may not have enough current to turn the starter.
There are two ways to see if it is the starter at fault.
1, hit the starter repeatedly for a few seconds with a hammer, broom handle, stone, fist or other twatting implement - then try and start it.
2, put the car in gear, release the handbrake, and try to push the car (forwards or backwards). This often frees up the sticky starter. Then try and start it.
If either of the above methods work then your SM is knackered.
Sudden thought!!
Is the battery fully charged? I know the electrics work, but it may not have enough current to turn the starter.
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Ok, before we get totally obsessed with the idea it is the starter and not some other problem here's a couple more things to check.
1, Does the click come from the starter motor? Has this been verified ?
2, Try to start it with the headlights on. If the lights dim then power is, in theory, being diverted away from the lights to the starter motor
If you have a multimeter you could try testing for voltage at the starter/solenoid connections as this would definately say whether the starter is at fault or not.
1, Does the click come from the starter motor? Has this been verified ?
2, Try to start it with the headlights on. If the lights dim then power is, in theory, being diverted away from the lights to the starter motor
If you have a multimeter you could try testing for voltage at the starter/solenoid connections as this would definately say whether the starter is at fault or not.
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after some more pushing using 3rd this time (thanks petavius) the infernal machine started thus i fear it needs a new starter after all.
do they have much of a life span or is risking a 100,000 mileage 1.7's one likely to be a waste? (the manual says they are the same)
do they have much of a life span or is risking a 100,000 mileage 1.7's one likely to be a waste? (the manual says they are the same)
1986 1.4DL - 147,000 - C746 VRT
I got a recon about 4 years ago, it was £100 fitted by a friend (think from Lucas, but I could be wrong). R5's have B14's in, prolly worth a check
'89(G) 340 GLE B172k
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
'03 S60 D5 SE, '91 (J) MX5, 1954 Cyclemaster
Ex:
'89(F) 340 GL F7R (ex B172k) - Fake -> SBKV 300 Runner Up 08, 12; '91(H) 340 GL B14.4E - Kar; '88(F) 360 GLT B200E - Jet -> BKV 300 Runner Up 09; '89(G) 360 GLT B200E - Beast
starter is now least of problems.
problems now include
1. econ gauge no longer works properly. strangly it worked when the hose was a combination of bits and pieces held together with tape. but now it have a proper T piece with one piece hoses its just sits halfway up then goes straight into the red as i accelerate.
2. acceleration is jerky and splutterly now.
3. the car doesn't idle anymore, just dies without constantly holding it on the accelerator, the choke has never worked properly but this now does absolutely nothing.
4. Temperature of coolant seems to always be Cold. i've looked in haynes and it says the thermostat might be broken. can they be salvaged.
I've looked for most of these problems in the haynes guide but they give hundreds of reasons and i can't check them all.
the only changes made to the car since the on set of these problems has been the breather T piece being fixed. since then the starter is falling apart and the car is working properly....
any help would be welcome.
problems now include
1. econ gauge no longer works properly. strangly it worked when the hose was a combination of bits and pieces held together with tape. but now it have a proper T piece with one piece hoses its just sits halfway up then goes straight into the red as i accelerate.
2. acceleration is jerky and splutterly now.
3. the car doesn't idle anymore, just dies without constantly holding it on the accelerator, the choke has never worked properly but this now does absolutely nothing.
4. Temperature of coolant seems to always be Cold. i've looked in haynes and it says the thermostat might be broken. can they be salvaged.
I've looked for most of these problems in the haynes guide but they give hundreds of reasons and i can't check them all.
the only changes made to the car since the on set of these problems has been the breather T piece being fixed. since then the starter is falling apart and the car is working properly....
any help would be welcome.
1986 1.4DL - 147,000 - C746 VRT



