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Goes like BMW, corners like Porsche....

Posted: 11 Jul 2007 09:48 pm
by jtbo
Would need better version of this advert if anyone would happen to have one or perhaps paper version where scan would be possible?

http://www.rs6.com/pics/Various/Volvo-Racer-82.jpg

Thanks in advance, it would help greatly in one of my silly ideas :)

Posted: 11 Jul 2007 10:19 pm
by Chris_C
I've got the advert on paper but no scanner mate ;) I'll see if the office does, else I know Nick does...

Posted: 11 Jul 2007 10:20 pm
by jtbo
Chris_C wrote:I've got the advert on paper but no scanner mate ;) I'll see if the office does, else I know Nick does...
Cheers mate, hoping for best :)

Posted: 12 Jul 2007 09:52 pm
by Ronnie
I had no idea that Porsches had that much body roll :wink:

Posted: 12 Jul 2007 10:33 pm
by MJ
At least it's not a Mustang :o
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I still want one though :P

Posted: 13 Jul 2007 01:29 am
by Chris_C
Nah, blatently worse than a Mustang ;)

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Still, at least being over at 45degs means I don't push any harder!

Posted: 13 Jul 2007 08:28 am
by jtbo
Lot of bodyroll = lot of grip, softer suspension provides more grip than stiff one, but with lack of control, however there is usually more time to react to situations with soft suspension where with stiff suspension changes are very rapid, best is then what suits your driving style best.

Older Porsches too had lot of body roll compared to newer ones :P

Posted: 13 Jul 2007 12:06 pm
by Frits
Softer suspension compared to the other Axle provides more grip to the soft axle

Always compared to the whole vehicle.

Vehicle dynamics is a neverending story

Posted: 13 Jul 2007 04:01 pm
by Chris_C
Jani, I've looked in the office, can't see a scanner... We'll ask Nick nicely!

Posted: 13 Jul 2007 10:04 pm
by ajdubas
In my opinion, it corners much better than a porsche, because I'm not dead yet :P

Posted: 16 Jul 2007 12:27 pm
by Chris71
Hmmm, will wait to see what a 360GLT is like, but I used to have a Porsche that rolled pretty horifically, maybe they were going for the same look? :)

Posted: 16 Jul 2007 01:25 pm
by jtbo
Chris71 wrote:Hmmm, will wait to see what a 360GLT is like, but I used to have a Porsche that rolled pretty horifically, maybe they were going for the same look? :)
944 or 911?

I know 356 has really lot of bodyroll, 944 NA version is not best either, but not worse, also some older 911 models roll quite a lot but I think those were upgrade during years and at 80's they already should have not too much bodyroll.

But I have drive only 944 turbo, it is nice car, but somehow let down, maybe I did except too much as it is a Porsche, or at least is badged like one.

Motorweek (1986) comparison of Porsche 944 Turbo and three Japanese sports cars. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92NoDd7DGnU
Notice bodyroll and rather low HP ratings, it was standard on those days ;)

Posted: 16 Jul 2007 05:45 pm
by ajdubas
lol Neesan 300 Zee X

actually has 232 bhp from the mk1 turbo version, brilliant car, unfortunately I'll never own one as my feet can't reach the pedals properly even with the seat at it's furthest forward.

on another note... Manual Mk III Supra in my local paper for £600... I should be banned from reading the local paper until I can afford such things.

EDIT:

sorry, 200bhp would be correct... American tuning, would be run on 82 RON, not the 97 stuff that the Euro model is tuned for.