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360 B200E fuel pump pressure and location?

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 07:42 pm
by 340cbr
Hi

I'm almost finishing my 340, but I am missing a fuel pump.

Currently I have one that does 3.0 bar max pressure and it seems that I need one that makes at least 3.5 bar.

I thinck that 360 B200E one does, but.... is it an external pump or inside the tank?

If yes.... does anybody pleasssse have one to sell at a good price :D

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 08:16 pm
by Tourinki
It is external.

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 08:40 pm
by 340cbr
Good :D

Really thanks for the information!!!

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 09:38 pm
by trabitom99
Bosch & Pierburg still sell them new. But you're looking at a cost of around 150 Euros :-(

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You might want to check your local scrapyard for some of the other cars they were fitted to:

ALFA ROMEO 75 1.8 Turbo
ALPINE V6
CITROËN CX II
Fiat Uno Turbo
Jaguar XJ & XJS
Mercedes W126
Renault Espace II, 21, 25
Saab 900 & 9000
Volvo 700's & 900's
and several Porsches.

Quite an exotic list there :-)

Tom

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 09:49 pm
by Chris_C
CBR, early 480 turbo's also had an external fuel pump, even though books say otherwise. Mine didn't, which was an '89, yet two '89's I've seen scrapped have. They are same place as the 360 one if they have it, rear wheel arch by the tank.

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 09:50 pm
by Fuse
Also electrical pump from a Volvo 240 with K-Jet is quite good, they're running those on over 400hp applications. (Usually they two pumps, one pump is good for a lot of HP though ;)) K-jet pump has much more flow/power than stock EFI pumps because system pressure on K-jet needs to be much higher. (injectors open by pressure) So it's a one possibility, usually doesn't cost much and it's got that extra punch if needed later. ;)

Posted: 24 Aug 2007 10:18 pm
by 340cbr
trabitom, some of that cars do not have such an high pressure or external fuel pump and must of them are really hard to find in scrapyards here :(

The one that I have now was from a Renault 21

Also know about 200 ones, but one more time, not easy to find one in a scrap yard.

Posted: 28 Aug 2007 04:05 pm
by trabitom99
340cbr wrote:trabitom, some of that cars do not have such an high pressure or external fuel pump
The Renault 21 listed is the 2.0 Turbo ... The Pierburg pump is listed as having 3 bar or 43,5 psi. I don't know about the Bosch one.

I don't know much about fuel pump pressure, but most of the cars listed there are fairly high-powered. I'd have thought that a pump which suits an Alpine V6, a Porsche 928 and a Renault 25 V6 Turbo would be more than enough for a 360. But then I don't know what conversions you've been doing to it, it certainly sounds interesting :-)

You can cross-check for yourself if you like, one of the websites I use for parts is this one:

http://www.autoteile-shopping.de/default.asp?lang=po

... that should be the link in Portugese.
340cbr wrote:... and must of them are really hard to find in scrapyards here :(
None of the models listed are common in scrapyards here either. There might be the odd crashed Merc W126 (80's S-Class) though ...

Tom

Posted: 28 Aug 2007 06:19 pm
by 340cbr
I have one '89 21 Turbo, and the pump of it do not make 3.5 bar :cry:

Posted: 28 Aug 2007 07:26 pm
by classicswede
Old shape 740's also used teh K jet and have the same pump.

Huge numbers of mercs used K jet so I asume they could be used aswell.

Posted: 28 Aug 2007 07:51 pm
by meintag
Speaking of fuel pumps... This pump ( B200 E - 120l/h ) can supply a twin weber conversion ? I guess setting a adjustable FPR to the work pressure of weber ( less than 0,5 bar ) I'll have not problem, isn't it ?

Thanks guys !!

Posted: 28 Aug 2007 11:59 pm
by 340cbr
That pump makes between 4.5 and 5.3 bar

You will not have lack of pressure :lol:

Install a fuel pressure regulator and it will work fine.