Can I change my Carburettor for an electronic fuel injection

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Can I change my Carburettor for an electronic fuel injection

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I have a 360 GLE, 87' and I'm having huge problems with my carburettor!! Zisac something... Can anybody tell me if there is a way of changing it into electronic fuel injection??
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Solex Sisac? What sort of problems are you having?
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yes you can; you just need a 360i donor and swap the complete loom + all senders + electric fuel pump and lines + manifold/rail + amm; aircleanerhousing etc.
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And if you want it to run at all well cam and renix too, stock LE is fueling for an A cam not whatever a GLE has and won't adapt.
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Must be just me then that thinks it's a rather drastic course of action to change a carb for injection., just because of a few problems with carb? :roll:
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Not necessarily... if you want to keep the car long term a (nearly) maintenance free fuelling system is always welcome! :D
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Yup, take a good casting and service it well.

Fuel injectors need cleaning and flow testing, half of LE jets sensors are mechanical and suffer from carbon build up (as LE is in good running for worst injection system of all time :lol: )

If the effort is being gone to, it makes sense to use something adaptable like LH, but for my money I'd service up a good carb casting in this instance, as the OP likely has one.
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I've had some bad times with carbs, but they are very simple. Solex aren't at the top of my manufacturers list, preferring SUs then Webers.

But I can understand the big problems and frustration if I was present with something like a Jikov. :lol:
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i do agree with macplaxton; nothing beats the simplicity of a wellserviced carb.

imo injection is for lazy people or a high spec engine project and nothing else :lol:

b200k has Y-cam; the b200e has V cam; rods of the b200k are smaller too but that won't be a problem with the stock power of a b200e

i believe dowpipe/manifold is also different but that won't make a huge improvement
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volvodspec wrote:b200k has Y-cam; the b200e has V cam; rods of the b200k are smaller too but that won't be a problem with the stock power of a b200e
Some B200K's also got L cam's I believe... over here all B200E's in the 360's came with an A cam. I thought all N/A B200's of this kind of age all had 9mm rods?
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I was planning on doing eactly this (87 carb) this until I opted for the Turbo route instead. The 87 carbs are good as they are high compression, unlike the 87 GLTs, trust me you want that. Few things I discovered;

The head waterways are slightly different for the heated carb manifold, but should be relatively easy to add in the necessary core plugs.

The Injection loom is separate and comes out in one piece (from memory).

The fuel tanks are different, either you need that or some other consideration, like an intank pre-pump or something. Many injection pumps are not good a pulling air, unlike carb pumps which do it okish.

No reason for exhaust to be any different, only for PS/Non-PS nothing to do with injection/carb.

Don't copy over the auxillary fuse box for the injection pump and fog lights, they fail, use a decent springy in-line fuse.

I have a full kit of parts for the conversion if you're interested (N.Ireland). Although I may need a few for the Turbo, like the pump or its mounting and the fuel tank. Alternatively my carb is fine.

Injections are good because they go around corners well, you have to make float levels less than ideal for that to work. They also start well after the car has been sitting for a while (eg 6 months). I'm more into electronics so really I secretly hate carbs for their mechanical pedigree, really its surprising they work atall. Injection is the proper thing for the job, and internal combustion engines should not be driving the wheels... electric motors are much more suitable. ;-)
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My normal cure for the cacky solex twin chokes was to fit the B19/B21 srongberg/SU carb and manifold. I do still have some manifolds but no carbs left. Carbs are aften on ebay - look for srongberg CD 175 or SU HIF44
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The carbs themselves are common, just make sure you get the correct needle and jet from Burlins or similar. That strom is a lovely carb to drive, I know I say it often... but it really is.

Dai, was there ever a twin Strom to late redblock manifold?
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All carb 240's upto about 1982 were fitted with them. The manifold will fit on all redblocks.
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volvodspec wrote:i do agree with macplaxton; nothing beats the simplicity of a wellserviced carb.

imo injection is for lazy people or a high spec engine project and nothing else :lol:
When there's variation in the ampient temps between -30C and +30C through the year carbs have quite bad adaptibility and fuel economy compared to a good EFI. :P

LH 2.2 isn't a major job to install if you wan't the stockish look and reliable EFI. It doesn't have a flywheel pickup for ignition so installing it doesn't require flywheel change like 2.4 would.
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